Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

Post by blub » Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 2:26 PM UTC

bbmario wrote: post #39

peeters wrote: post #34

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I don't find it a step forward at all. It's a move toward pricing out the privacy-conscious. Right now, auto insurers in Canada will give you a premium reduction if you let them spy on you as you drive. But what happens when that becomes the norm? People end up paying a premium to not be spied on. Eventually privacy becomes unaffordable.

If you value privacy, pay for it.

Post by blub » Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 2:36 PM UTC

geofft wrote: post #42

peeters wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't find it a step forward at all. It's a move toward pricing out the privacy-conscious. Right now, auto insurers in Canada will give you a premium reduction if you let them spy on you as you drive. But what happens when that becomes the norm? People end up paying a premium to not be spied on. Eventually privacy becomes unaffordable.

Privacy becomes worth what the market will bear. If that's unaffordable, that's just because it's valuable. There's all sorts of other premiums on the exercise of your rights in a private context. It's very hard to get a job in information sectors that lets you retain copyright of your creative work, or in general a job that lets you exercise your freedom of speech without potentially risking your job. If you have ph…

Post by geofft » Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 2:39 PM UTC

blub wrote: post #52

geofft wrote: post #44

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In a capitalist society, something being a right has no bearing on whether you need to pay for it. You have the right to life, but if you get sick, you need to figure out how to pay for it, and if you can't, you might not be able to exercise that right. You have the right to liberty, but if someone infringes your liberty, nobody is going to give you a lawyer for free and you have slim chances of succeeding without re…

In a capitalist society that doesn't respect human rights, like the USA this may happen. It also happens in poor societies that can't afford to enforce these rights. But there are countries out there which strive to uphold these rights, no matter if one affords to pay for various services or not.

Post by behringer » Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 2:44 PM UTC

majinuub wrote: post #37

ourmandave wrote: post #32

This go around, "Hey, it's not like it's a total body scan." Next year, "I did a total body scan at the Amazon Outlet and Care Center and got a free year of Amazon Prime." Next next year, "The Amazon chip implant was totally painless and I got an account credit of 100 Bezos Bucks." Next decade, "Alabama is the only state I'm not allowed to marry Alexa."

"Bezos Bucks" I find this hilarious and disturbingly real at the same time

Post by ionised » Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 2:55 PM UTC

hyayz wrote: post #31

cameronehrlich wrote: post #13

You get to choose, and they are actually offering to pay you... I thought this is what we wanted people...

They complain when they take your data in exchange for a service. They complain when they pay you money for your data. They just want to complain. Thus their complaints are simply worthless.