As a googler, I say good. People like her have made going to work exhausting. Leave your politics at home and let me do my job in peace.
But your work is innately political.
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It's bad to retaliate against workers who organize against sexual harassment and gender compensation disparity in the workplace. It looks bad because it is bad.
So as long as you have good intentions you should be free to bring whatever politics to work? Regardless of how, as long as what your protesting the right things everything else doesn’t matter?
If by "politics" you mean "not being harassed" or "paid the same for the same work", yes, yes you should be free to bring that to work. Every damn day.
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#83I don't really understand why it's surprising to anyone that they would face "internal retaliation" after exposing their employer as evil and boycott worthy to the entire world. By publicizing it to the degree that they did and attaching their name to it, they were putting their interests over the company. If my company started doing business practices that I didn't approve of, I would try my hardest to change the di…
It sounds like she did step 1 (try to change from the inside, first privately, then through employee protest), and now she's doing step 2 in your program. What would you do differently?
Nothing. But more or less https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR3fD5YyN3g She lost, so she's moving to the next company with an * to her name no doubt.
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Realize Meredith and her crew are a minority of employees. We are talking Majority of googlers wanted maven. They wanted search in China. Biggest change to culture is people getting tired of SJW outrage. And a focus back on our users and business
> Majority of googlers wanted maven. They wanted search in China. Source, please.
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#85>Whittaker also publicly denounced some Google decisions, including the appointment of Kay Coles James, a conservative think tank leader, to an AI ethics board. Google soon nixed the board. I wonder how much that contributed. No matter the personal political leanings of the employees, most companies try to stay on the good side of both sides of the political aisle. When the president of Heritage Foundation (which is…
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>which is the bigoted right at the moment
Ah yes, let's generalize ~50% of the country as bigots. That surely will lead to quality discussion.
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Correlation != causation. Could be that, because cities become tech hubs, and because cities tend to lean left, that anyone who wants to work in tech will move to a city and be influenced by the left-leaning culture. I've known people who were farther right, went into tech, moved to cities, and are now farther left.
Or maybe the intellectual capacity required to do well in tech also makes it more likely one would recognize instances of social injustice. It's just pattern matching after all.
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#87I thought this story had already been reported a month ago. But no, I was wrong, that was the other organizer of the Google Protests, Claire Stapleton: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jun/07/google-wa... So to clarify, both of the female Google employees who lead/organized the protests have now left because they say they faced retaliation. That looks very bad for Google.
Looks good for Google to me. These protests were getting out of hand, and their demands were showing some major entitlement.
You don't understand Google culture if you think this line would fly with anyone there. Entitlement for full time employees is baked into the charter, along with transparency. That's a good thing and a bad thing, in different ways. It gave bad actors a lot of autonomy, but it also exposed them to scrutiny and pushback from good actors.
What's surprising is that now these reprisals are trying to push that back to make Google more like other normal companies and organizational structures.
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>which is the bigoted right at the moment Ah yes, let's generalize ~50% of the country as bigots. That surely will lead to quality discussion.
The leaders certainly all are. Not saying anything about ordinary people.
Why would you think I'm optimizing for quality of discussion? I'm optimizing for the material conditions of oppressed people, not some silly debate conducted on an online forum. It's more important to state the obvious truth than to soften it.
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I don't believe she protested the AI ethics council.
I'm pretty there was some protest surrounding the ethics council.
There was separate protests that the ethics council was inappropriately scoped and those on the council not fit to be there. The protests Meredith was on was regarding the letting go with generous severance packages of employees found to have been sexually harassing co workers, and the lack of resources within Google for those victims of sexual harassment/assault.
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#90Its a shame this submission might be flag killed as there continues to be important issues to discuss.
The main thing it seems to me is that if a worker is unhappy with their company and is so unhappy their protest (and organise a walk out) their employer its even more clear they are unhappy working there. The unhappiness or alienation will increase.
I might have got it wrong though .... did these protestors say they were happy working there and just unhappy with other things or people?
It seems like it's a wider issue that's common across all work places. What should be the best way for people happy working with their colleagues or team but concerned about other things with the organisation to continue their good working environment and share their views? Maybe it's just a HR thing.