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Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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I feel the need to say this every time the 'puck mouse' comes up: I loved mine. If you use your fingers to move a mouse, rather than your hand (like I do) then it was totally fine (and I found I could move it very exactly for fine control when using a design package). I never got it the wrong way around, never had any other problems people complain about and I loved the weight of it and used to chuck it around my des…

I feel the same way. I loved that mouse, I was sad the day mine finally gave out.

Oh buddy...

https://www.ebay.com/b/Apple-Puck-Mouse/23160/bn_7023277587

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Can't really agree with the Magic Mouse 2 being a "miss". I understand the controversy with the charging port being under the mouse, but it's done on purpose: Apple wants to prevent users from leaving the mouse connected with a USB cable all the time. Maybe there was a better solution to this issue, but the truth is that it's not actually an issue and not a blunder either. I've had this mouse for years and simply rec…

I was wondering if that was the decision. it is well known that apple products should not constantly stayed plugged in and I think putting the charging cable in this location allowed for the battery on the mouse to stay consistent over time.

If it'd been on the edge I'd have probably used it plugged in all the time, because I've been trained by years and years of shitty battery-powered peripherals to plug them in any time I possibly can. Turns out it's totally fine and the battery lasts ~forever, and since I couldn't plug it in I didn't stress about it.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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post #7

Can't really agree with the Magic Mouse 2 being a "miss". I understand the controversy with the charging port being under the mouse, but it's done on purpose: Apple wants to prevent users from leaving the mouse connected with a USB cable all the time. Maybe there was a better solution to this issue, but the truth is that it's not actually an issue and not a blunder either. I've had this mouse for years and simply rec…

The Magic Mouse 2 is junk but not because of the location of the charge port or the touch scroll. It's because it got the fundamentals of good mice so bad—an unergonomic shape and abysmally high foot friction. There are obviously going to be people who love it, but for me it's embarrassingly bad compared to options made by Razer and others.

Yet their trackpad is the best in the entire industry. I've switched to the Magic Trackpad on my desktop and it's brilliant. The impetus to change was concern for some occasional RSI-like pain in my left-click finger, but now that I've been using it for a couple of years, I don't miss the traditional mouse at all.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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post #6

I feel the need to say this every time the 'puck mouse' comes up: I loved mine. If you use your fingers to move a mouse, rather than your hand (like I do) then it was totally fine (and I found I could move it very exactly for fine control when using a design package). I never got it the wrong way around, never had any other problems people complain about and I loved the weight of it and used to chuck it around my des…

It is almost universally hated. Your conclusion is wrong.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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The one thing I noticed missing that should have been included was the unibody MacBook design. That was a huge innovation that led to massive improvements in build quality industry-wide. If I recall correctly, he played a much larger role in that design than the iPod, which is largely credited to Tony Fadell (although Ive definitely had a large influence on later iterations).

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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if those are his misses then I'd say he did a fantastic job. half of those I'd say weren't even misses. Loved the G4 cube, the hockey puck mouse, 3D Touch, and my Magic Mouse 2. But nothing gives me more anxiety than my AirPods, they always feel like they are falling out and occasionally do.

Sounds like the AirPods just aren't made for your ears unfortunately. They've never fallen out of mine, even on runs.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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post #7

Can't really agree with the Magic Mouse 2 being a "miss". I understand the controversy with the charging port being under the mouse, but it's done on purpose: Apple wants to prevent users from leaving the mouse connected with a USB cable all the time. Maybe there was a better solution to this issue, but the truth is that it's not actually an issue and not a blunder either. I've had this mouse for years and simply rec…

> I understand the controversy with the charging port being under the mouse, but it's done on purpose: Apple wants to prevent users from leaving the mouse connected with a USB cable all the time. Here's a better solution: good old rechargeable AA batteries. Keep a spare set sitting in a charger, and you'll never need to wait for your device to recharge. If you're concerned about users falling back on disposables, bun…

Any even better solution, use a wired mouse and keyboard. Why do I need to deal with batteries for something that doesn't move more than a few inches from its destination? We've banned wireless peripherabls in our organization, because they cause more issues then they are worth. "My mouse is jumping all over the screen", "my mouse no longer works", "my keyboard is typing things I'm not typing!". 9/10 it's low battery, the other 1/10 is someone has paired accidentally with your machine.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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post #13

The last paragraph for Magic Mouse 2 seems a bit forced. This mouse has not garnered the same level of controversy as the other products in this article. I've personally found it more enjoyable and ergonomic than my Logitech M705 and Microsoft Sculpt. It's not inherently more ergonomic but the additional functionality enabled by multitouch means I don't have to move the mouse as much (on macOS at lease), which vastly…

Actually it is so bad and non ergonomic that there is a video from a keynote where Craig Federighi is struggling to use it.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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I can't believe they still haven't fixed that charging port on the mouse. It has to be the single most hated Apple design choice ever...

Finally used one. It was totally fine. And kept me from using it plugged in 100% of the time, which is what I'd have probably done otherwise. Not like the touchbar which I have to all-but disable to make a Macbook Pro usable at all.
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