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Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

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Re: Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

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Real car companies don't make cars in tents.

"real" car companies are not without their own scandals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_contro...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto#Fuel_system_fires,_...

Re: Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

#23

Real car companies don't make cars in tents.

Hmm. Didn’t some _real_ car companies need bail-outs from the US government?

You mean like how every U.S. Tesla ever sold has been heavily subsidized with tax rebates? And how they actually got a U.S. Government loan? And how they got further tax credits from Nevada for building the Gigafactory there?

Re: Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

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Hmm. Didn’t some _real_ car companies need bail-outs from the US government?

You mean like how every U.S. Tesla ever sold has been heavily subsidized with tax rebates? And how they actually got a U.S. Government loan? And how they got further tax credits from Nevada for building the Gigafactory there?

Weird.. Almost like the majority of other corporations in the US..

Re: Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

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What concerns me is that shortcuts in industrial manufacturing processes are often directly detrimental or even fatal to workers. Heavy industry uses toxic chemicals and large, powerful machinery; cutting corners around those things is actively dangerous. Using some electrical tape in places where you'd otherwise use shrink tubing is not a big deal. But like you said, trying to cut corners on a finished hardware desi…

There's absolutely no such contention in the linked article though. It's about tape. I mean, yeah, they could be doing all kinds of crazy things. But so could anyone else who needs to ship products on tight schedules. Why single out Tesla here? I mean, would you react this way if it turned out Mazda or Audi was taping down some misassembled parts?

Yes. This "you're singling Tesla out" persecution complex is getting old. Tesla is an amazing company in many ways, but there's plenty of bad to go along with the good.

Re: Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

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Keep in mind this is from cnbc - they consistently push an anti-tesla position https://cleantechnica.com/2018/08/28/40-tesla-headlines-on-c... https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/9b71x0/40_tesl... And for more insight google “why does cnbc hate tesla”

Can we get away from the logical fallacies here? If you have a problem with the facts in the article list them instead of attacking the author/publisher.

Re: Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's absolutely no such contention in the linked article though. It's about tape. I mean, yeah, they could be doing all kinds of crazy things. But so could anyone else who needs to ship products on tight schedules. Why single out Tesla here? I mean, would you react this way if it turned out Mazda or Audi was taping down some misassembled parts?

Yes. This "you're singling Tesla out" persecution complex is getting old. Tesla is an amazing company in many ways, but there's plenty of bad to go along with the good.

Isn't it telling that folks have Tesla under a microscope at all?

Re: Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's absolutely no such contention in the linked article though. It's about tape. I mean, yeah, they could be doing all kinds of crazy things. But so could anyone else who needs to ship products on tight schedules. Why single out Tesla here? I mean, would you react this way if it turned out Mazda or Audi was taping down some misassembled parts?

Yes. This "you're singling Tesla out" persecution complex is getting old. Tesla is an amazing company in many ways, but there's plenty of bad to go along with the good.

You have a link to equivalent worries about Mazda or Audi or someone? I mean... it's not a persecution complex if there's actual persecution. No one writes articles about tape on Fords. Ever.

Re: Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions

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Hmm. Didn’t some _real_ car companies need bail-outs from the US government?

That has nothing to do with the parent comment, which was about manufacturing processes and planning. The bailouts were the result of overproduction and high labor costs in an unexpectedly shrinking market.

Parent comment doesn't have much to do with anything. Who decides what a 'real' car company does?
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