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Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Post by nl »

kylesellas wrote: post #2

This is honestly frustrating to see whenever massive corporations are responsible for creating a deal in which users will be given away data in order to receive a small compensation. Data, especially personal data should not be a means in which anyone can make any sort of financial compensation from. personal data is stolen every day and used against individuals - and by creating a means in which more people will giv…

Data, especially personal data should not be a means in which anyone can make any sort of financial compensation from.

Why? That seems a pretty extreme position.

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Post by r3bl »

inetknght wrote: post #5
r3bl wrote: post #4

Just a casual reminder that a portion of Amazon workers are on a strike during the Prime Days. Support them by not visiting any Amazon property for the next two days. No Amazon purchases, no Audible, no Goodreads, no Twitch. AWS is kinda unavoidable, but the rest is not. We can do without them for two days, and show our support for the workers that are protesting inhumane conditions.

> AWS is kinda unavoidable, but the rest is not. Even AWS is avoidable. The cloud hosting market is competitive if you'd only look around.

It's unavoidable in the short term. Way too many websites use AWS for a consumer to boycott them, and if you're using it within a company, you can't switch away easily on a short notice.

But I agree, if you work for a company that relies on AWS, now is the perfect time to re-examine that decision. They were the first ones to fulfill a niche, but there's a bunch of competition now.

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Post by peaktechisnow »

r3bl wrote: post #4

Just a casual reminder that a portion of Amazon workers are on a strike during the Prime Days. Support them by not visiting any Amazon property for the next two days. No Amazon purchases, no Audible, no Goodreads, no Twitch. AWS is kinda unavoidable, but the rest is not. We can do without them for two days, and show our support for the workers that are protesting inhumane conditions.

this worked great for autoworkers! h a h a ha

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Post by benj111 »

r3bl wrote: post #4

Just a casual reminder that a portion of Amazon workers are on a strike during the Prime Days. Support them by not visiting any Amazon property for the next two days. No Amazon purchases, no Audible, no Goodreads, no Twitch. AWS is kinda unavoidable, but the rest is not. We can do without them for two days, and show our support for the workers that are protesting inhumane conditions.

Does it help them?

Theres only any point in withdrawing labour, if that labour was required. Surely it would be better to concentrate your purchases so that the labour loss will be keenly felt, then not buy the week before or after.

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Post by dahdum »

r3bl wrote: post #4

Just a casual reminder that a portion of Amazon workers are on a strike during the Prime Days. Support them by not visiting any Amazon property for the next two days. No Amazon purchases, no Audible, no Goodreads, no Twitch. AWS is kinda unavoidable, but the rest is not. We can do without them for two days, and show our support for the workers that are protesting inhumane conditions.

Heads up, the union organizing behind the UK strike doesn't want a boycott.

> Still, the GMB isn’t calling on customers to boycott the online retailer during Prime Day. “We’re not calling for economic damage for Amazon,” Mick Rix, a union officer told the BBC. “What we’re asking for is for people to be aware. Leave feedback on Amazon.”

https://qz.com/1666429/amazon-prime-day-2019-sees-workers-st...

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Post by kpU8efre7r »

kylesellas wrote: post #2

This is honestly frustrating to see whenever massive corporations are responsible for creating a deal in which users will be given away data in order to receive a small compensation. Data, especially personal data should not be a means in which anyone can make any sort of financial compensation from. personal data is stolen every day and used against individuals - and by creating a means in which more people will giv…

Agreed.

It's almost like a perfect storm. I feel like many of these issues are worsened by economic conditions in America or poor education. You have people hurting for money who don't realize what they're giving away. Due to this they are vulnerable to being exploited by powerful entities like Amazon.

I think this also contributes to a lot of what we see on the web or on mobile. You have multitudes of free apps that suck and sell your data and blast you with ads but they're free. You have multitudes of free online "news" sources that are basically billionaire backed propaganda but they're free. Good sources usually cost money- better to get your news from Facebook.

Free wins almost every time. I don't care if people are opting into this, Amazon knows exactly what they're doing. They're benefiting hugely from the uneducated and poor. The thing is I'm not sure there is anything that can be done. It's a symptom of poor education and economic factors.

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Post by kpU8efre7r »

nl wrote: post #11
kylesellas wrote: post #2

This is honestly frustrating to see whenever massive corporations are responsible for creating a deal in which users will be given away data in order to receive a small compensation. Data, especially personal data should not be a means in which anyone can make any sort of financial compensation from. personal data is stolen every day and used against individuals - and by creating a means in which more people will giv…

Data, especially personal data should not be a means in which anyone can make any sort of financial compensation from. Why? That seems a pretty extreme position.

Perhaps there should be law that makes is illegal to resell data that you collect. Almost like a first sale doctrine for user data.

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Post by kylesellas »

nl wrote: post #11
kylesellas wrote: post #2

This is honestly frustrating to see whenever massive corporations are responsible for creating a deal in which users will be given away data in order to receive a small compensation. Data, especially personal data should not be a means in which anyone can make any sort of financial compensation from. personal data is stolen every day and used against individuals - and by creating a means in which more people will giv…

Data, especially personal data should not be a means in which anyone can make any sort of financial compensation from. Why? That seems a pretty extreme position.

Let me clarify - I think massive companies should not have the ability to sell data, i think data has already taken such a massive role on our lives that it is bound to lead to some major incident.
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