It's because of all the outdoor defecation, thank you poojets!
NASA Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India
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Re: NASA Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Feels like you're assigning probabilities out of thin air. For example, not sure how hardware failures would wipe out the entire human race, or even cause the collapse of modern civilization across the planet - like every single piece of critical hardware in all major cities would somehow have to fail in a limited space of time. It would require controlled electricity (for lack of a better term) to spontaneously disa…
> Feels like you're assigning probabilities out of thin air. True, I did not run a probability study; however if one looks at the control that computers have on every facet of your existence and how often they fail--I'm pretty the odds would scare the fuck out of you. > Not to mention there was nearly modern civilization before electronics were invented that we could fall back to. You going down to the stream to fetc…
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Re: NASA Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India
#33China is also the biggest contributor to CO2 emission by a large margin.
Western countries outsource CO2 emissions to China
Re: NASA Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India
#34China is also the biggest contributor to CO2 emission by a large margin.
It's also the largest country, by a large margin.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was in rural Yunnan earlier this year. Drove for multiple hours on the highway. Everywhere was entire mountains covered in rows of a single species of trees. I'm not sure what the long term effects of such a widespread forest monoculture with no plant competition will result in.
No longterm effect, one specialized bug with good conditions and that monoculture is dead. But that will give room for other species which would have a chance to root if it wasn't for the monocultures being so tightly planted
We have this back home, pine monoculture planted some 50-60 years ago to make parts of mountains more visually appealing (and probably more good reasons like cleaner air). In 2004 there was a freak storm with quite strong winds, half of that forest was destroyed, in many cases trees literally snapped in the middle of the trunk. Still pretty bad sight 25 years later.
They said it was freak accident that happens every few hundred years. Well there was another one few years after, and few other smaller ones since then.
Now its largely left on its own as being national park with highest protection level, but this has some (hopefully relatively short term) negative effects - population of bugs eating trees exploded and they are destroying remaining trees.
Monocultures sucks, we should know better.
Re: NASA Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India
#36Some more information on the actual amount of tree planting in china. >China has been conducting what the United Nations has said is the world’s largest tree planting crusade, which increased its forest coverage from 8.6 per cent in 1949 to 21.7 per cent last year. >By March this year, the total area covered by China’s artificial forests reached 69.3 million hectares, larger than the size of France, according to the…
I was in rural Yunnan earlier this year. Drove for multiple hours on the highway. Everywhere was entire mountains covered in rows of a single species of trees. I'm not sure what the long term effects of such a widespread forest monoculture with no plant competition will result in.
At these kinds of scales, the effects can be enormous.
Just across the sea, Japan went on their own replanting crusade, and ended up with a huge pollen allergy problem [0]
Hopefully they have thought through the problem well enough that they don't run into anything major, but putting in the same trees that were there is logically the least dangerous. In BC Canada, the government required replanting on forest licensed crown land HAS to be a representative mix of seeds gathered from that forest, and its for a reason.
[0] https://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/17/science/japan-s-cedar-for...
Re: NASA Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India
#37Re: NASA Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not do it per capita instead?
Climate Change doesn't care about per capita.
Climate change doesn't care about which country either.
I agree with the fact that China and India need to focus on their emissions, but it seems ridiculously convenient for someone from a western country to ask a couple billion people to reduce their emissions while they themselves will find every opportunity to reduce their own accountability.
FYI - A US per capita emission is almost 20 times more than that of India. https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Environment/...
Re: NASA Says Earth Is Greener Today Than 20 Years Ago Thanks to China, India
#39I was speaking to someone employed as a state forester recently and we were comparing maps we had brought to the meeting. He talked about how he had access to all sorts of cool maps like infrared and even aerial maps dating back to the early 1910's and 20's. I joked that those maps must just be the tops of endless forests (this was in a northern state known for its forests) and he said the images seen were the opposi…
Your point of well explained in the book 'Rational Optimist'
The intensive farming actually increased wilderness.
With tech of 1960, it would have required 86% of land to be farmed to feed current world population.