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Apollo 11 Had a Hidden Hero: Software

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"The Charming Genius of the Apollo Guidance Computer" is a wonderful talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY45YE7ggng The AGC implemented a virtual machine to run higher-level computational routines. The whole architecture is really interesting.

Eyles has a memoir out: info available here. (The title is "Sunburst and Luminary", which were the names for LM software builds for earth-orbit testing and lunar landings, respectively.)

http://www.sunburstandluminary.com/SLhome.html

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There is a good book on the computer systems of Apollo project: Digital Apollo https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/digital-apollo It describes interesting questions that were faced on the project: say, how much control over a lunar module could be given to a computer system, and how much they should rely on human engagement.

It's interesting to me that 50+ years later this debate on system control is still very much relevant to aerospace today, like the recent 737-MAX issue.

I believe this problem will become important for more and more industries like medicine, mobility with further advances of AI there.

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That’s funny because I actually love the Hans Zimmer theme.

I really loved the Hans Zimmer music too. I got pumped up every time I heard it. I felt some bloat at times when they really dug into that 1202 error. It just kept coming up again and again.

Yes - it's bloated for a reason ... all of the things they've spent long episodes on are so you know what's going on when they do the realtime recordings of cap com.

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I recently started listening to a fantastic podcast called 13 Minutes To The Moon[0] produced by the BBC. It’s a retelling of the last 13 minutes until the Apollo 11 lander touched down. Episode 2 talked about the software and the 1202 program code. They interviewed the Guidance controller who was only 26 at the time and talked about how the average age of the flight controllers was 27. I thought that was incredible,…

It's a really good podcast, but I found it a bit bloated in places, I could have done without the Hans Zimmer theme, of which they are so inordinately proud.

> of which they are so inordinately proud

If you got a multi-Grammy winning composer to make your podcast theme you'd be extremely proud too.

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I knew a retired couple near where I lived growing up who, I found out later, were software programmers on the Apollo Program. Quite possibly worked in that lab. The husband passed away soon afterwards, and I never got around to asking the wife about her experiences (they both worked for the program!). But it was really cool reading about how the core software was written.

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It's interesting to me that 50+ years later this debate on system control is still very much relevant to aerospace today, like the recent 737-MAX issue.

There's not really any debate. The MAX ignored very basic controls lessons that were learned and institutionalized, as you say, over 50 years ago.

I agree that the 737-MAX wasn't a good example.

My limited understanding in a broader sense (as opposed to the specific 737-MAX case) is there is still considerable debate on who should have ultimate control (human or software) of the aircraft when making critical decisions. I remember reading an article a while back that made it seem like Boeing and Airbus were on different sides of this spectrum in basic design philosophy, but I don't know how true that is.

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> When it came to hiring women for engineering or management, NASA “had a few women, and they kept them hidden,” says Ms. Densmore. “At the lab it was very different,” and there were opportunities for women.

Quite amazing what an important role women like Margaret Hamilton played in the Apollo project, given how hard it is nowadays to get more women into engineering positions. You may remember the famous picture of Hamilton next to the stack of code she and her team wrote for Apollo: see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_(software_...

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The article mentions the overload on the computer was caused by "a mismatched power supply to a radar" triggering too many calculations. Any idea how or why the power supply was mismatched ? Luckily software saves the day but what was the root cause of the hardware fault ? Was that a case of a mismanaged change in configuration ?

Re: Apollo 11 Had a Hidden Hero: Software

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The article mentions the overload on the computer was caused by "a mismatched power supply to a radar" triggering too many calculations. Any idea how or why the power supply was mismatched ? Luckily software saves the day but what was the root cause of the hardware fault ? Was that a case of a mismanaged change in configuration ?

If I remember correctly, two AC power sources were required to be in phase for measurements of the antenna direction to work correctly, but weren't actually specced as such, and thus not built that way, and randomly ended up so out of sync that it caused problems on that flight.

EDIT: this article has more detail https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/07/no-a-checklist-error...

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