Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

Post by pathseeker » Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 10:31 PM UTC

enlyth wrote: post #15

I agree with the worker in the video, they should be treated as human beings. One of the issues is doing a simple, monotonous task every 8 seconds, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, without creating anything of value, is going to be dehumanizing and unfulfilling regardless. Robots carrying out this work would probably be for the best for everyone involved, although Amazon should do right by the workers carrying them ove…

Post by ZhuanXia » Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 10:34 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #149

lallysingh wrote: post #146

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> It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for their labor practices rather than demonizing the market conditions that have led to Amazon warehouses being a place people are willing to work. That's about as useful a statement as "Thoughts and prayers." To change the labor market you go after the parties you can affect. Amazon is one. There are many others on the demand side. Retaining the workforce…

Or you just raise the minimum wage. We arrived at this point because those with money use it to influence government to their exclusive benefit.

Post by rayiner » Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 10:34 PM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #142

mdorazio wrote: post #49

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> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…

"The market" is not intelligent, moral, or nice to people. "The market" decided that slaves are a pretty efficient way of farming. You can hate the game not the player, but the player is still responsible at some point.

Post by mikeash » Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 10:38 PM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #178

JudgeWapner wrote: post #95

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> . It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for Why does it bother you when people empathize with the poor and castigate billion dollar corporations that don't even allow employees enough time to urinate without it harming the employees metrics making them slip towards the back of the rank and closer to being fired? That bothers you ...think about that.

The problem is that workers in this position are getting squeezed by opposing forces. On the top you have automation. They have jobs because they cost less than robots. But every wage increase or company benefit or break that reduces worker productivity is a step closer to cost parity with automation, and therefore the unemployment line. On the other side, they can move away from that line by accepting lower pay or w…

Post by sneak » Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 10:44 PM UTC

darkpuma wrote: post #198

sneak wrote: post #188

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Because it is no person’s place to compel, using violence, two consenting adults to alter an agreement between them to which they both voluntarily consent and that harms no third party.

So in your system, if I pay an employee to climb an unsafe ladder, OSHA has no right to slap me for that because the employee consented? That sounds awful. There would be many preventable deaths and injuries under a system that neuters OSHA; what you're proposing is deeply immoral.