Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. Why?
What other system results in an efficient market?
Is "an efficient market" the only goal?
Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
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Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#182Honestly it's been underwhelming anyway. The vast majority of the deals are re-runs of ones in past 6 months...just all at same time. I buy a lot of amazon stuff, but this barely shifted my day to day pattern. I did find out that you get wifi power plugs that are controllable and measure electricity usage. That's pretty cool...just not sale related.
Do you have a link/name of the wifi power plugs? Sounds intriguing.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tangentially one thing that I've pondered is the the Amazon Fulfillment Centers are typically on the periphery exurban areas such that they will have the benefits of the minimum wage legislation of the urban area but that wage will go a lot farther and they will have a lot shorter commute then if they were located in the urban area itself as a normal retail job would. That seems smart. For instance, $15 an hour goes…
Stockton, CA is not subject to San Francisco minimum wage laws.
It doesn't need to be, because Amazon has increased their minimum pay everywhere across the US to $15/hr last year.[0]
0. https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-amazon-raising-mi...
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not simply about hurting Amazon, it's about sending a signal. "This specific part of our business is threatened by the way that we're running it." Let it make business sense for Amazon to treat people like human beings. Otherwise it won't.
And then what? Amazon will continue to do the bare minimum to appease these signals periodically. It is not the duty of consumers to provide a social safety net for workers. This is precisely where government should step in. If you really give a shit about the people working at Amazon, write to your congressman/congresswoman and voice your support for social programs that would positively impact them.
Why not both?
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Or you just raise the minimum wage. We arrived at this point because those with money use it to influence government to their exclusive benefit.
Amazon is paying above minimum wage already. What do you suggest they should be paid?
Not everyone else is. People may put up with the 'above average' amazon because everything else in the area is still paying closer to minimum wage. If min wage was raised, it might make it easier to say 'no' to the amazon warehouse gig.
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#186Just a little reminder that many workers in fact do not get treated well just because their company thinks they do.
I think it should also be noted that the best way to show an employer that they need to do better is supply and demand, quitting entirely and working for someone else is not only more effective than simply demonstrating or slacking off, it’s also many magnitudes more professional and better for your career.
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#187What would it effect Bezos Net Worth to double the warehouse operatives hourly rate to $22?
Yep. The situation is similar to what Ford had. Salary increase might happen if they have a shortage of candidates. But will there be a shortage? Or are they just the best employer for a lot of people?
Very relevant film about the topic: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5688932/
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…
> the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. Why?
Because it is no person’s place to compel, using violence, two consenting adults to alter an agreement between them to which they both voluntarily consent and that harms no third party.
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#189I agree with the worker in the video, they should be treated as human beings. One of the issues is doing a simple, monotonous task every 8 seconds, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, without creating anything of value, is going to be dehumanizing and unfulfilling regardless. Robots carrying out this work would probably be for the best for everyone involved, although Amazon should do right by the workers carrying them ove…
> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…
>the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market.
Yeah. There's no way way it's more complicated than this. If there are other effects not reflected on a simple X/Y axis then I don't wanna know about it!
Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#190Honestly it's been underwhelming anyway. The vast majority of the deals are re-runs of ones in past 6 months...just all at same time. I buy a lot of amazon stuff, but this barely shifted my day to day pattern. I did find out that you get wifi power plugs that are controllable and measure electricity usage. That's pretty cool...just not sale related.
Do you have a link/name of the wifi power plugs? Sounds intriguing.
TP link one
...also saw some random github-y thing while googleing the model number which hints at some level of hackable/api-able interfacing which made me click the buy button. That's sketchy info though
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GWWRK1C
[Please bookmark & make use of smile.amazon.com/co.uk thing...it's amazon's corporate charity thing - free 0.5% donation]