"I have to pick an item every eight seconds, or 332 per hour, for a 10-hour day"
No, no you dont
Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
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Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's happening but that doesn't mean a) we should just bend over and accept being fucked over due to some vague robot threat in the future or b) make jokes about workers having to bend over.
No one in this thread made any jokes about the situation and characterizing the comments as such is disingenuous.
> Cue Amazon putting in more robots!
Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#93I've been boycotting amazon for a long time. Waiting for "democracy" to solve the problems of unabated exploitative capitalism is a cop out. I put my money where my mouth is. I pay more, wait longer, but shop at places where I know people are treated at least decently.
Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#94Honestly it's been underwhelming anyway.
The vast majority of the deals are re-runs of ones in past 6 months...just all at same time.
I buy a lot of amazon stuff, but this barely shifted my day to day pattern.
I did find out that you get wifi power plugs that are controllable and measure electricity usage. That's pretty cool...just not sale related.
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#95I agree with the worker in the video, they should be treated as human beings. One of the issues is doing a simple, monotonous task every 8 seconds, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, without creating anything of value, is going to be dehumanizing and unfulfilling regardless. Robots carrying out this work would probably be for the best for everyone involved, although Amazon should do right by the workers carrying them ove…
> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…
> . It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for
Why does it bother you when people empathize with the poor and castigate billion dollar corporations that don't even allow employees enough time to urinate without it harming the employees metrics making them slip towards the back of the rank and closer to being fired? That bothers you...think about that.
Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#96What would it effect Bezos Net Worth to double the warehouse operatives hourly rate to $22?
What would it effect bezos's net worth to halve the required number of items picked per hour but keep the pay the same? Pay should be determined by the market, decent working conditions are what we should be fighting for. Amazon workers aren't poorly compensated, they're just working shitty jobs regardless of the compensation. Paying people more doesn't make abusing them okay.
Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#97I agree with the worker in the video, they should be treated as human beings. One of the issues is doing a simple, monotonous task every 8 seconds, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, without creating anything of value, is going to be dehumanizing and unfulfilling regardless. Robots carrying out this work would probably be for the best for everyone involved, although Amazon should do right by the workers carrying them ove…
> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…
Why should it reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market? What's the axiom upon which you stand to say that is the correct way of things?
Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#98I agree with the worker in the video, they should be treated as human beings. One of the issues is doing a simple, monotonous task every 8 seconds, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, without creating anything of value, is going to be dehumanizing and unfulfilling regardless. Robots carrying out this work would probably be for the best for everyone involved, although Amazon should do right by the workers carrying them ove…
> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…
Tangentially one thing that I've pondered is the the Amazon Fulfillment Centers are typically on the periphery exurban areas such that they will have the benefits of the minimum wage legislation of the urban area but that wage will go a lot farther and they will have a lot shorter commute then if they were located in the urban area itself as a normal retail job would. That seems smart. For instance, $15 an hour goes a lot farther in Tracy and Stockton toward rent or a downpayment than it does in the Mission. Obviously Amazon were to pay more and that would be even better.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. I read an article last week about a guy who got fired for "unnecessary motion." (will update this comment with a link if I can dig it up.) Here's a story about a patent on a wristband that enables this kind of tracking: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/31/amazon-wa... It is humanly possible. As a teenager, I worked at UPS, where I was expected to stack boxes real-life-Tetris-style into a van at a…
I did a similar job for UPS, but at an airport before school in the mornings (~2am-6am). Unloading the containers from the big plane, then sorting all those boxes, and finally loading the smaller planes or trucks. Everything was timed, and it was tough cold work (middle of winter, in a cold part of the US, at an airport where there is nothing to stop the wind), but its totally possible. Comically enough, the part tha…
funny, for me it was tough hot work (middle of summer, Utah desert, trucks in the sun all day)
Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…
Why should it reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market? What's the axiom upon which you stand to say that is the correct way of things?
If wages are not set by a market, ie not supply and demand, they will be mispriced. Mice-pricing represents a loss of efficiency in the economy, and makes everyone worse off over time.
If wages were set lower than equilibrium, obviously the workers would be lose out on this.
If wages were set above equilibrium, the consumers would lose out due to the higher costs being transferred over to them.
The market price represents the balance between the two interests that is the most efficient.
Inb4 some smartass posts "but perfect markets are only in textbooks and this is the real world". That isn't an argument that justifies as to why we should try to move away from the efficient equilibrium.