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Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Post by chrshawkes »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #6

Why is there so much attention on Google? It's market cap is $800B. Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B. We're not a bunch of rubes here, to have this many articles proposing sanctions and/or breakup of Google has all the fingerprints of coordinated action. It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough…

Google's been stinking a long time my friend. The other companies you mentioned are also dealing with one bad publicity piece after another. Amazon strikes going on today for instance. 5 Billion dollar fine to Facebook etc...

Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Post by KirinDave »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #24
KirinDave wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a major boycott of Amazon this week after it came out they're directly competing for military contracts that Google declined to take [0]. It's almost certainly the case that Amazon is helping and urging people to post negative stories about other high profile competitors, Google included, right now. That's just how tech journalism works. Amazon is just much better at it than less successful attempts like the…

"It's almost certainly the case" without any evidence whatsoever? I mean, there's a lot of companies who have a reason to promote Google's fraud-based business model (mostly, companies being defrauded by it). What would you say makes it "almost certainly" about Amazon?

Forgive me if it's a case of mistaken identity, but I seem to recall last time we talked you started harassing me on other social media sites demanding I answer your arbitrary questions and attempting to solicit distributed harassment.

Don't you think it's better for both our mental health and the tone of HN if we not argue about this, and perhaps agree both companies do bad things and scheduled boycotts of both can be a good example of collective action?

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Post by false-mirror »

CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #13
throwaway5752 wrote: post #6

Why is there so much attention on Google? It's market cap is $800B. Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B. We're not a bunch of rubes here, to have this many articles proposing sanctions and/or breakup of Google has all the fingerprints of coordinated action. It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough…

> Why is there so much attention on Google? Amazon declared tomorrow "Prime Day" and a lot of workers are striking today and/or tomorrow. Throwing shade at Google would be a good way to keep technical people from paying attention to the plights of workers. But it could also just be a coincidence.

I'd love it love it love it if the richest companies had this little class solidarity. A nice change of pace.

I'd guess many anti-corporate sentiments are rising, and there's just some overlap in scheduling

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Post by asark »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #6

Why is there so much attention on Google? It's market cap is $800B. Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B. We're not a bunch of rubes here, to have this many articles proposing sanctions and/or breakup of Google has all the fingerprints of coordinated action. It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough…

Don't worry, there's plenty of room in my heart to hate and wish ill upon all the scummy fraud-enabling private dragnet spy corporations.

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Post by vipbababd »

"It's almost certainly the case" without any evidence whatsoever? I mean, there's a lot of companies who have a reason to promote Google's fraud-based business model (mostly, companies being defrauded by it). What would you say makes it "almost certainly" about Amazon?

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Post by eitland »

ddalex wrote: post #11
0xDEFC0DE wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This has a stink to it. TBH so does using market cap to dismiss criticism of Google

But it's not dismissing criticism. It's acknowledging that other big companies that have pretty similar issues are not coming under fire for the said issues.

As I have pointed out elsewhere (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20444182) Microsoft and Facebook has been under fire as well.

And yes, it was deserved for them as well.

Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Post by vipbababd »

There is a major boycott of Amazon this week after it came out they're directly competing for military contracts that Google declined to take [0]. It's almost certainly the case that Amazon is helping and urging people to post negative stories about other high profile competitors, Google included, right now. That's just how tech journalism works. Amazon is just much better at it than less successful attempts like the "scroogled" campaign.

This does not dismiss the bad things Google does. However, it does mean that it's a good week to remind people to boycott Amazon any way they can in addition to holding Google accountable.

Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Post by catacombs »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #6

Why is there so much attention on Google? It's market cap is $800B. Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B. We're not a bunch of rubes here, to have this many articles proposing sanctions and/or breakup of Google has all the fingerprints of coordinated action. It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough…

> It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough index ranking.

Keep in mind that this is a hunk of crap.

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