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Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Was expecting to see various types fraud that google profits from, instead it seems to be focused mainly on "(business) identity theft via google maps" - right?

Thought for sure there would be info about things like taking ads for "flashplayer" that installed malware, things like taking money for ads for "walmart" searches instead of just listed the organic result, because there is implied threat of NOT listing walmart at the top due to competitor ads or "gamed" search results.

Enabling places like grubhub and others to take over search results for restaurants / small businesses and brands in the search results.

Censoring organic results, yet allowing paid listings to insert themselves within.

I'm sure there are many more forms of fraud that could be brought up that are mainly possible with google.

Basically looking for more perspective given the title, I think the title could of been less broad given the article's info.

Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Was expecting to see various types fraud that google profits from, instead it seems to be focused mainly on "(business) identity theft via google maps" - right? Thought for sure there would be info about things like taking ads for "flashplayer" that installed malware, things like taking money for ads for "walmart" searches instead of just listed the organic result, because there is implied threat of NOT listing walma…

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Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Why is there so much attention on Google? It's market cap is $800B. Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B. We're not a bunch of rubes here, to have this many articles proposing sanctions and/or breakup of Google has all the fingerprints of coordinated action. It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough…

There is a major boycott of Amazon this week after it came out they're directly competing for military contracts that Google declined to take [0]. It's almost certainly the case that Amazon is helping and urging people to post negative stories about other high profile competitors, Google included, right now. That's just how tech journalism works. Amazon is just much better at it than less successful attempts like the…

"It's almost certainly the case" without any evidence whatsoever? I mean, there's a lot of companies who have a reason to promote Google's fraud-based business model (mostly, companies being defrauded by it).

What would you say makes it "almost certainly" about Amazon?

Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Why is there so much attention on Google? It's market cap is $800B. Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B. We're not a bunch of rubes here, to have this many articles proposing sanctions and/or breakup of Google has all the fingerprints of coordinated action. It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough…

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Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Why is there so much attention on Google? It's market cap is $800B. Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B. We're not a bunch of rubes here, to have this many articles proposing sanctions and/or breakup of Google has all the fingerprints of coordinated action. It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough…

> Why is there so much attention on Google? Amazon declared tomorrow "Prime Day" and a lot of workers are striking today and/or tomorrow. Throwing shade at Google would be a good way to keep technical people from paying attention to the plights of workers. But it could also just be a coincidence.

> But it could also just be a coincidence.

It's not Prime Day, and there's bad press about Google. It's Prime Day, and there's still bad press about Google. Prime Day is over, and there will continue to be bad press about Google.

The word I'd go for isn't "coincidence." It's something more like Captain Obvious.

Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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Why is there so much attention on Google? It's market cap is $800B. Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B. We're not a bunch of rubes here, to have this many articles proposing sanctions and/or breakup of Google has all the fingerprints of coordinated action. It's less than a month after the US president saying he would sue them because he felt they didn't give conservative sources favorable enough…

> Why is there so much attention on Google?

Because they’ve been behaving badly for years and a number of people like me will upvote anything that gives them a pounding (of course only if I think it makes sense.)

A better question should probably (again IMO) be why they’ve gotten away so easily for so long.

> Amazon and Microsoft are roughly $1T. Facebook is $600B.

Facebook has taken a lot more beating. All very deserved IMO, in fact I think they deserve a fair bit more, but at least they got more than Google AFAIK, which is reasonable.

Microsoft has been beaten so much by sysadmins like me, governments etc, both for fun and for profit that I don’t think anything Google or Facebook has experienced yet really compares.

Amazons time hasn’t come yet I guess.

Re: Google Legally Profits from Fraud on Its Platform

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It's amazing how many scams and malware-serving websites are in Google Ads, and how aggressively Google refuses to address it. I've actually had Googlers (here on HN) go and report and have removed the malicious sites I reported, just to see them back a handful of hours later, without so much as rotating domain names out. Google must be stripped of any profit from criminal activity on their platform. When a fraudulen…

Google has a strong incentive to be ineffective at catching fraud on their platform, and despite the company line, it shows through their actions.
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