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After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by nabnob »

orthoxerox wrote: post #94

> Car2Go sent several workers to retrieve the vehicles, only to find that a group of thieves had claimed them as their own. Some blocked the vehicles in to prevent repossession; others threatened the company’s employees, according to someone with knowledge of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity. How come they haven't contacted the police immediately after that? Also, they mentioned that people sublet th…

From personal experience driving for Uber, I've noticed that facial recognition technology isn't that accurate if you're not white.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by broAhmed »

glenneroo wrote: post #161

According to the infographic, in Chicago in 2018 they had 22,700 vehicle thefts, which if divided by 365 days = roughly 62/day. 75 vehicles stolen in one day doesn't sound completely abnormal?

Those 22k car thefts are all car thefts in Chicago, not just Car2Go thefts.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by broAhmed »

sschueller wrote: post #162

I am amazed at the stats a bit into the article. 22.7k vehicles were stolen in 2018 in Chicago (metropolitan statistical area) alone. That seems like a huge number.

To be clear, I'm pretty sure that means 22k car thefts in general, not 22k thefts from Car2Go.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by snarf21 »

excar2gothrow wrote: post #158

This is interesting to me because when I worked at car2go a few years ago something similar happened. They updated the app sign-up process with a step where you had to take a photograph of your driver's license with your phone, and then take a photo of yourself (to confirm that the license you were signing up with was indeed yourself). These two photographs were not checked manually but were "analyzed" but a facial r…

It seems like the thieves were mostly targeting Mercedes and other high end cars. It seems like there is an easy solution to just rent domestic mid-size cars and/or add the extra security checks in for people who want luxury cars. Car2Go made it too easy to steal luxury cars seems more like the real issue.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by geoka9 »

rocgf wrote: post #124
cerberusss wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you can have nice things. The whole thing looks to me like an localized, one-time incident. In my (European) city, there are multiple car sharing companies active, and it has caused me to sell my (gasoline) car and use the (electric) car sharing system.

What city is this, if I may ask? Or at least what country?

I can say that describes the situation in Vancouver (Canada) Although not sure about the taxi lobbying part - but personally I'm glad Uber is not here.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by cellis »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #117
toasterlovin wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, there has never been an easier time to be alive. When you frame things like that, it really drives home how utterly unfit for modern life a person has to be to justify a life of crime in 2019. Life is always a struggle, but we’re not exactly living in a Dickens novel.

The view you presented here is deeply, if unintentionally, flawed; it'd take a small essay to unpack and elaborate all the points in detail. But to sketch a tl;dr of a part of such essay: - 'pas touched upon the amount of people in poverty; add to that mental problems, losing the IQ lottery, being born into a pathological family and a host of other concerns, and you'll see you're severely underestimating the amount o…

It’s one of those things that you shouldn’t “say”, but everyone knows: victors write the history , then yesteryears lawbreakers become todays lawmakers. But only for the victors does this work. Everyone else rots in prison.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by pstrateman »

broAhmed wrote: post #193
sschueller wrote: post #162

I am amazed at the stats a bit into the article. 22.7k vehicles were stolen in 2018 in Chicago (metropolitan statistical area) alone. That seems like a huge number.

To be clear, I'm pretty sure that means 22k car thefts in general, not 22k thefts from Car2Go.

That's still astronomical.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by woodrowbarlow »

nabnob wrote: post #191
orthoxerox wrote: post #94

> Car2Go sent several workers to retrieve the vehicles, only to find that a group of thieves had claimed them as their own. Some blocked the vehicles in to prevent repossession; others threatened the company’s employees, according to someone with knowledge of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity. How come they haven't contacted the police immediately after that? Also, they mentioned that people sublet th…

From personal experience driving for Uber, I've noticed that facial recognition technology isn't that accurate if you're not white.

does uber use facial recognition in vehicles? can you expand on that? in my city i haven't seen any evidence of facial recognition in uber/lyft vehicles.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by dwyerm »

snarf21 wrote: post #194
excar2gothrow wrote: post #158

This is interesting to me because when I worked at car2go a few years ago something similar happened. They updated the app sign-up process with a step where you had to take a photograph of your driver's license with your phone, and then take a photo of yourself (to confirm that the license you were signing up with was indeed yourself). These two photographs were not checked manually but were "analyzed" but a facial r…

It seems like the thieves were mostly targeting Mercedes and other high end cars. It seems like there is an easy solution to just rent domestic mid-size cars and/or add the extra security checks in for people who want luxury cars. Car2Go made it too easy to steal luxury cars seems more like the real issue.

Maybe, but at the other end are the bike- and scooter-share systems. I suspect the perceived cheapness of the products contributes to how many of them end up thrown off the ends of piers.

Personally, I really miss Car2Go's old SMART cars. They sucked. They sucked sooooo bad. They were terrible cars. I hated them! But they were damned easy to park, they were dead-simple to operate, and they were easy to spot on the street. I want those back, and would rather not drive a 'luxury' car where I spend the first two minutes of my rental trying to figure out how to adjust the seat and turn off the radio.

So maybe making the cars more luxurious makes them less likely to be abused.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Post by barbecue_sauce »

ceejayoz wrote: post #184
barbecue_sauce wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also don't necessarily correlate correctly with behavior. If you actively avoid debt, for instance, you are essentially penalized with regard to credit score.

I'm not sure that doesn't correlate. If I avoid debt for a decade, suddenly seeking debt should be a bit of a red flag, and I should have a correspondingly low credit score.

But the problem is credit scores are used as proxies for other purposes.
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