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Re: Bullet Time

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Post by oposa »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #16

> In fact, many of them actually have Bilibili’s exact bullet comment feature, which was open-sourced by the company in 2015. I'm curious how much stuff we're missing out on because it doesn't appear on our radar. It has happened a handful of times so far that I googled something and ended up on a github repo that had a Chinese readme only. Only from context I could guess what it was about. And I wouldn't even be sur…

A lot. But isn't that big of a concern (but being curious is a great thing overall). There always going to be things are obscure, irrelevant or hidden. But that isn't what people are missing these days. Almost everything that you would need is available in one form or the other.

What you should be concerned about is the things hidden in plain sight. Things that are there but you can't appreciate because you don't understand the context, it challenges an already held view or is something you can't practice.

There countless comment on hacker news over at least the last five years trying to explain why less things are happening in the west and more things are happening in China. So no one should be surprised that there are things going in China that we don't appreciate. Still it is usually met with disbelief.

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On a more practical note, just translate it. I might not work out, but poking things often gives you more information than you had before. Or it may at least can actively confirm what you were thinking in the first place. That is sort of the original hacker mindset.

Re: Bullet Time

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Post by needle0 »

taneq wrote: post #12
needle0 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trust me, the difference between the comments vertically scrolling in the sidebar and horizontally on top of the video is huge. In Twitch, when the comments become fast enough they literally give no time for the viewer to parse and understand most of them; With bullet comments plus Asian languages that have high letter-to-meaning ratio (or at least with my experience with Japanese on Niconico), each of the comments h…

So the increased density of languages like Japanese actually translates to faster reading comprehension? I guess I'd always assumed that concepts-per-second would be about the same even if one language took up more physical space per concept than another.

I've seen some videos on Niconico with English comments but those were a lot harder to read. Perhaps concepts-per-second between EN/JP are similar if reading a static page, but English text tends to use more characters than JP text that express the same idea, making the system scroll it faster and thus harder to read as they whiz by. Maybe it's a Niconico issue and the system is tuned to reward comments in the typical JP length to be the most readable; I'm not sure.

Re: Bullet Time

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Post by mac01021 »

lifthrasiir wrote: post #14
needle0 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trust me, the difference between the comments vertically scrolling in the sidebar and horizontally on top of the video is huge. In Twitch, when the comments become fast enough they literally give no time for the viewer to parse and understand most of them; With bullet comments plus Asian languages that have high letter-to-meaning ratio (or at least with my experience with Japanese on Niconico), each of the comments h…

One complicated reason why horizontally scrolling comments are not more widespread is a patent. Dwango has two related patents (Japanese patents no. 4695583 & 4734471), so competitors had to work around them; most prominently, FC2's Himawari Douga was able to escape the trap by moving an input form inside the video (something Dwango was unable to secure due to prior arts) [1]. But this was hard win, and probably it i…

How could anyone decide that horizontally scrolling text is an idea substantial and original enough to be worthy of a patent?

Re: Bullet Time

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Post by shakyshakyshaky »

dugditches wrote: post #4

Youtube used to have something similar with annotations. You'd get videos spammed with them covering the screen. But some uploaders used them to make something akin to DVD menus. Being able to skip to other videos or timestamps in a longer video. Looks like Youtube removed it this year. Pity since it also served as a way to 'edit' or correct videos. Instead of putting it in the Description/Comments hoping to be read.

Much of the time it was used to create full screen transparent links to other videos, or other obnoxious things decreasing QoL. Still sad to see it go though.

Re: Bullet Time

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Post by gfody »

iforgotpassword wrote: post #15
gfody wrote: post #5

this feels so dystopian to me. not only can the media be engineered to push whatever agenda but so can the perceived social reaction to it - like the mind control machine choking up its grip. of course it happens in China first

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the article also highlights the Chinese government's interest in the phenomenon. the risk of this "drug" being used against the people is pretty realistic in China over places where the internet is free and open.

Re: Bullet Time

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Post by taneq »

mac01021 wrote: post #23
lifthrasiir wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One complicated reason why horizontally scrolling comments are not more widespread is a patent. Dwango has two related patents (Japanese patents no. 4695583 & 4734471), so competitors had to work around them; most prominently, FC2's Himawari Douga was able to escape the trap by moving an input form inside the video (something Dwango was unable to secure due to prior arts) [1]. But this was hard win, and probably it i…

How could anyone decide that horizontally scrolling text is an idea substantial and original enough to be worthy of a patent?

You forget that "click the mouse once" was considered patentable.
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