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After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

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Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#11

This is interesting because I always thought these "background checks" were just a formality. Like something needed for their insurance or to weed out a few extreme individuals (like those with multiple-DUIs or a heavy history of wrecks on their record). But the fact that they can ease up on background checks and see an immediate large bulk of car thefts is damning evidence that the background checks were truly havin…

Correlation does not imply causation

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#12
Never underestimate how much cleverer than you people will be when it comes to money. They spend their full time on figuring out how to use the system in ways you didn't expect, whereas you don't even spend full time on getting the things to work the way you barely took the time to think they would.

Secondly, take away the lesson that there's a reason that banks/stores/merchants don't lower their standards and go into certain neighborhoods, in the name of "lowering barriers to entry". (or demographics in this case) It comes with a lot of crime/fraud/loss, and unless you're actively fighting it or have figured a way around it, you will lose.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#14

This is interesting because I always thought these "background checks" were just a formality. Like something needed for their insurance or to weed out a few extreme individuals (like those with multiple-DUIs or a heavy history of wrecks on their record). But the fact that they can ease up on background checks and see an immediate large bulk of car thefts is damning evidence that the background checks were truly havin…

That sort of implies that there was some river of theft intent that they were keeping dammed up.

Which, could be the case, or it could be that announcing the policy change was the equivalent of announcing your upcoming month-long backpacking tour on Facebook after posting your address and photos of most of your valuables.

(It might be less declaring open season on theft, than a perceived increase in vulnerability triggering a surge in attempts to exploit it, more of which succeed than usual due to some actual increase in the odds of successful theft, complicated by the additional security risk posed by the confusion associated with a major policy change.)

You'd really need to dig into the surrounding data to find out which model is valid and in what proportions.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#15
post #9

If there’s one thing enterprising thieves know how to do, it’s ruining things for honest people and why we can’t have good things. You really have to think like a thief when you want to serve the public because the public provides a cover to the crook and if you let your guard down it’ll bite you in this day and age.

I think it's also due to having a population that has nothing to lose.

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#16

Never underestimate how much cleverer than you people will be when it comes to money. They spend their full time on figuring out how to use the system in ways you didn't expect, whereas you don't even spend full time on getting the things to work the way you barely took the time to think they would. Secondly, take away the lesson that there's a reason that banks/stores/merchants don't lower their standards and go int…

Do you have any citations for what seems like an extreme claim in your second paragraph?

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#17
post #15
post #9

If there’s one thing enterprising thieves know how to do, it’s ruining things for honest people and why we can’t have good things. You really have to think like a thief when you want to serve the public because the public provides a cover to the crook and if you let your guard down it’ll bite you in this day and age.

I think it's also due to having a population that has nothing to lose.

People downvoting parent probably don't understand cost-benefit analysis outside of their caste

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#18

Never underestimate how much cleverer than you people will be when it comes to money. They spend their full time on figuring out how to use the system in ways you didn't expect, whereas you don't even spend full time on getting the things to work the way you barely took the time to think they would. Secondly, take away the lesson that there's a reason that banks/stores/merchants don't lower their standards and go int…

Do you have any citations for what seems like an extreme claim in your second paragraph?

Credit scores? This is a fairly widely known fact that honestly shouldn’t need citations.

There’s a reason banks secure credit cards from people with no credit history. There’s a reason insurance in Florida is different than the rest of the U.S. etc

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#19
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unrelated to the story, but could my ISP possibly be blocking archive.is? Is this a known issue with that site? None of the links ever work for me, but it seems that I can access it anywhere but my home network.

archive.is is blocked in Australia and some other countries, along with many other sites. For Australia this happened in May this year. Most ISP's just use DNS-filtering to block it, so getting around it is as easy as changing your DNS settings.

I am in Australia and the link worked fine, so this must only be true for certain ISPs?

Re: After Car2Go eased its background checks, 75 vehicles were stolen in one day

#20
>its GPS trackers can’t be physically disabled

That's just a silly statement. Anything can be physically disabled; the question is how difficult and time-consuming disabling it is. Maybe it's encased in a steel block in the engine compartment in series with vital wiring connections but even then some work with an angle-grinder and a soldering iron could get around it given a couple of hours.

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