Out of topics I'm in no way am a tech-savvy or Internet security/ piracy etc. advocates by any means (although I've been looking into it). Q the article is straightforward to follow and comprehend , that I have not once google up any technical words. I like the writing in this.
The Vision for Decentralized Web
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Re: The Vision for Decentralized Web
#12AFAICS, neither Blockstack or dpage.io are "decentralized". Note the login page. Ask what happens if dpage.io site goes down. This is just a website. The fact that this site uses Blockstack's centralized servers doesn't make it "decentalized" any more than using AWS would.
Of course you still need to have servers somewhere. The decentralized parts are these: blockstack identity (which is stored on blockchain) and the fact that all user data is not stored on one server, but on multiple nodes. The user can choose what node to store their data on. It can be your own hosted node too.
Re: The Vision for Decentralized Web
#13Gah!
While reading the article I followed links and secondary links, and searched, and I now have 18 resulting tabs open.
The last one is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=decentra...
and the first link on that search result page is to TBL's Solid project, which seems to be Yet Another DWeb effort.
Should I think of this, and other Dwebs, as an eventual global replace for FBook et al?
Or is/will it be more like superpowered personal web pages? And will my aunt have to run her own ... node?
Re: The Vision for Decentralized Web
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
You should check out blockstack. The platform does not use blockchain to store data, but only to create a more robust domain name and identity solution. The data is stored on encrypted server storage. I think this is a nice combination of decentralization and blockchain at work.
"Blockstack PBC, a public benefit corporation at the heart of the Blockstack ecosystem, has raised $50M+ in capital to develop the core protocols and developer tools for the platform." What is decentralized about a venture-funded vanity project?
If I could upvote you more than once ...
Re: The Vision for Decentralized Web
#15Gah! While reading the article I followed links and secondary links, and searched, and I now have 18 resulting tabs open. The last one is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=decentra... and the first link on that search result page is to TBL's Solid project, which seems to be Yet Another DWeb effort. Should I think of this, and other Dwebs, as an eventual global replace for FBook et al? Or is/wi…
Author here. I would like to address some of your questions:
1) The web is decentralized by design - we only need to 'upgrade it'
2) We need to create tools that empower people to leverage decentralized capabilities of the web (so that there would be no need for aunt to run the node)
3) I imagine we should not think about DWeb as some sort of FB replacement but more of an ecosystem where people feel that they have a choice and don't need to give away their content to facebook and other centralized platforms.
It is not clear how this has to be implemented but I feel that some more privacy oriented and data-ownership oriented platforms will emerge in the next five years.
Re: The Vision for Decentralized Web
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
You should check out blockstack. The platform does not use blockchain to store data, but only to create a more robust domain name and identity solution. The data is stored on encrypted server storage. I think this is a nice combination of decentralization and blockchain at work.
"Blockstack PBC, a public benefit corporation at the heart of the Blockstack ecosystem, has raised $50M+ in capital to develop the core protocols and developer tools for the platform." What is decentralized about a venture-funded vanity project?
Muneeb from Blockstack here.
There was a HN Launch discussion recently that might be relevant here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20413420
The decentralization comes from (a) open-source GPLv3 code, (b) permissionless blockchain, (c) enabling users to host private data lockers, among other things.
The discussion on decentralization in our recent SEC offering circular -- page 49 and page 69 at https://stackstoken.com/circular -- is also relevant here.
Re: The Vision for Decentralized Web
#17I would like to know how many people still use the web in comparison to how many people use the Internet. My guess would be that normal people are moving to using specific mobile apps for everything they need.
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#18I'll be interested to see where these distributed trends go. I too have been working on something to solve a problem I face; "information" sharing and storage. Fundamentally I want a public wikipedia focused around small pieces of information (though I'm still toying/dogfooding with the UX) , but more importantly I don't think it should be a centralized entity. Oddly though there's something I don't like about buildi…
Have a look at Blockstack's gaia protocol for storage, it is free and open source. And you can also use it with other decentralized identity providers. If you don't like the company, you still might like their vision.
Re: The Vision for Decentralized Web
#19AFAICS, neither Blockstack or dpage.io are "decentralized". Note the login page. Ask what happens if dpage.io site goes down. This is just a website. The fact that this site uses Blockstack's centralized servers doesn't make it "decentalized" any more than using AWS would.
Muneeb from Blockstack here.
Dpage can be easily converted to a Desktop app. Most of the app logic is client-side anyway and hosting at a domain is mostly for convenience.
Blockstack's "centralized servers" doesn't really fully capture the technology at play here. The pointers to user data lockers are stored in the Stacks blockchain, and users can host their own private encrypted data lockers where they want. Blockstack PBC does provide a free service to host data lockers, as a way to help bootstrap initial usage.
Re: The Vision for Decentralized Web
#20AFAICS, neither Blockstack or dpage.io are "decentralized". Note the login page. Ask what happens if dpage.io site goes down. This is just a website. The fact that this site uses Blockstack's centralized servers doesn't make it "decentalized" any more than using AWS would.
Of course you still need to have servers somewhere. The decentralized parts are these: blockstack identity (which is stored on blockchain) and the fact that all user data is not stored on one server, but on multiple nodes. The user can choose what node to store their data on. It can be your own hosted node too.
If dpage.io goes down all the authors still have their pages on their storage. It is just a question of spinning of a new page that aggregates the pages again. Authors own their page content.