Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working (2017)

Post by daenz » Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 6:28 PM UTC

Ensorceled wrote: post #118

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You probably don't mean it, but the phrasing you're using is very tone deaf to LGBTQ people who have historically been considered "diseased" and something to be "cured." To your point though, anecdotally, most people I know know someone personally who is suffering or has suffered from addiction. I would imagine much of the USA is that way. So in terms of visibility, I would venture to say that most of the population…

Could you please explain how I’m being tone deaf? As someone with a Queer child, I’m flummoxed.

Post by nyolfen » Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 6:43 PM UTC

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salt, sugar, and flour aren't natural?

They aren't typically found in nature in the form in which we consume them. They require human processing (even if it's much less processing than what goes into making a frozen pizza).

Post by weberc2 » Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 6:49 PM UTC

javagram wrote: post #94

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Is this true? Almost no one in my social circles knows a victim of gun violence, and I live in one of the most violent cities in the country. Even if you count suicides (and you really shouldn’t), I would be surprised if this were true. I suspect most people in the country don’t know a victim or offender of gun violence, while they do know several law-abiding gun owners leading them to believe that inner city issues—…

You don’t know anyone who’s ever been robbed at gunpoint or something like that? I think it might depend on who you define as a victim, but if you include suicides and robberies that didn’t result in a homicide this claim doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. I guess one thing is that it may be generational, as violent crime was far higher 20-50 years ago. Since the mid 1990s violent crime including gun crime has dropped…

Post by adamsea » Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 6:59 PM UTC

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Same-sex marriage never achieved enough support to be legalized [0][1]. It was voted against throughout the country including liberal states such as California. Same-sex marriage was legislated by a small number of judges. I'm not making an argument for or against so please don't debate me on the merits of this issue. I am merely pointing out that the people did not decide this issue. A very small number of elites di…

Post by daenz » Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 7:02 PM UTC

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>we need to raise the visibility and openness of dealing with drug addiction, to come out of the closet so to speak Keep in mind you are talking about a social ailment to be corrected. It's tone deaf to LGBTQ community who has been considered a social ailment for a long time. If you avoid drawing analogies between mental/psychological illnesses and LGBTQ people, you will avoid coming off that way.

Your len is off. Homosexuality was illegal and slowly we've reached the point of gay marriage. A lot of political reforms are still required. Drug law reforms still need to progress. Gay rights only progressed because of a personal connection. Using the same method for drug reform is not tone deaf. It's a little offensive drug reform is a mental/psychological issue. For many it may be a choice over legal choices that…