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Are smartphones the new 'opium of the people'?

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Re: Are smartphones the new 'opium of the people'?

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After the creation of cities and nation states, the smartphone is the next major step for the human race towards becoming a single superorganism. Maybe the last major step, seeing as full integration is probably a matter of many smaller advancements in the future.

Downvoted because people are terrified of the noosphere, or because our borg flavored implementation isn't what Teilhard de Chardin had in mind?

Re: Are smartphones the new 'opium of the people'?

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TV was worse. People looking at the box for hours really looked like junkies, motionless, blurred look, mouth open. At least phones are asynchronous in nature and the ~~addict~~ err people can still function. I think the real opium of people nowaday is politics, no matter what politics. People really want to protest the hell out of something. It gives meaning and purpose, it unites, but also makes them very vulnerabl…

you might be interested to dig into who "opium of the people" comes from. he's somewhat political!

Re: Are smartphones the new 'opium of the people'?

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For me, what's missing from the 'smartphone' // 'religion' analogy is — passion. The emotional tenor of my relationship with my phone looks — and, I'm sure — very different from the way people relate to their faiths. Facebook, YouTube, etc don't feel like 'movements' to me, like the article's author said. At least, I don't have the passion that a 'movement' seems to imply. For me, smartphoning is an emotional gray zo…

Phones are the opium of the masses; religion is the methamphetamine.

Re: Are smartphones the new 'opium of the people'?

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Watched an interesting Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition the other day. At the time of banning alcohol it was blamed for all kinds of complex social issues, from the breakdown of the family to the loss of moral rectitude. Really, though, it was just a very visible scapegoat for things like changing economic structures (industrial revolution) and social structures (immigration).

To whit, my take is that the smartphone is the new opiate of the masses only to the extent to which it (and social media) are the newest things we like to blame for far more complex social problems.

Prediction: banning smartphones won't stop kids from being depressed, nor will regulating Facebook fix extreme nationalism.

Re: Are smartphones the new 'opium of the people'?

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I always thought it was "opiate of the masses."

It was 'opium' in the original German, but that means both opium and opiate when it's translated in to English. If you read the full quote[1] it's fairly obvious Marx meant opium in the sense of the drug derived from poppies that was commonly used in his era rather than the whole class of drugs in the more modern sense.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people

Re: Are smartphones the new 'opium of the people'?

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Religion is often used as an analogy to disparage some other phenomenon. Surprisingly perhaps, this is done by both religious and non-religious people. I guess for the non-religious people religion is in general mistrusted, while for religious people it is bad to treat anything beside "true" religion as a religion. So "being like a religion" is generally a bad thing regardless of who uses the phrase.

But using an analogy require you understand the phenomenon you are comparing it to. So what does religion mean? In this article, religion is about

- "a transcendental realm" (and so is youtube)

- meeting in congregations (and so is Google meetup)

- a hierarchy with devoted spiritual advisors at the top (and so is, apparently Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg)

But without even going into what the nature of religion is, it is easy to dispel this analogy. Because even in a highly religious society you can have non-religious organizations, meetups and "transcendental realms" in the form of fiction, music, art etc. So there is clearly a difference. Unless you are going to argue that everything is religion - which you can, of course, given a vague enough definition, but which also makes the term meaningless. If everything is religion then nothing is religion.

Re: Are smartphones the new 'opium of the people'?

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For me, what's missing from the 'smartphone' // 'religion' analogy is — passion. The emotional tenor of my relationship with my phone looks — and, I'm sure — very different from the way people relate to their faiths. Facebook, YouTube, etc don't feel like 'movements' to me, like the article's author said. At least, I don't have the passion that a 'movement' seems to imply. For me, smartphoning is an emotional gray zo…

Agreed. Would you go to war over your phone? I think the analogy to faith kind of breaks down when you ask that question. I seriously doubt that anyone would be rioting in the streets over loss of access to Facebook. However I do think phones are like an “opiate” in that they have produced a lot of undesirable behavior in people.
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