Judge Gives E-Cigarette Makers 10 Months to Seek FDA Review

Post by andrepd » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 10:47 AM UTC

Lewton wrote: post #81

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Bingo. People that quit smoking with ecigs are transferring their addiction to something else. It may be less harmful than smoking or chewing tobacco, which inevitably leads people to compare it to caffeine. I’ve been addicted to both. Not once has the need for a triple latte pulled me out of a movie theater at the good part, or made me duck under an eave in the freezing cold when it’s raining outside. Nicotine is fi…

I don’t know any vaper who has to interrupt anything to feed their nicotine addiction. Nicotine alone is much much less addictive than Cigarettes and their finely tuned mix of additives designed for maximum addiction

Post by acollins1331 » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 11:37 AM UTC

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There is a fairly big practical difference between cigars and cigarettes. Cigars (like pipes) aren't traditionally inhaled into the lungs, so if you have genuinely gone from cigarettes to cigars and you aren't inhaling you're probably a lot better off.

It is a misconception that cigars are better than cigarettes. One cigar contains as much tobacco as 15-20 cigarettes and although you are not using lungs to breakdown and absorb smoke, you are using your mouth lining which can lead to all sorts of mouth cancers.

Post by ratboy666 » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 11:43 AM UTC

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I hope this doesn't result in e-cigs getting banned in the US because that would be terrible. I live in the same house with someone who has been smoking since they were a teenager (quite common where we're from) and e-cigs has allowed them to stop smoking cigarettes which may or may not benefit them that much but it most certainly benefits me (no smell of smoke in the house, no second hand smoking, etc). They have tr…

> I hope this doesn't result in e-cigs getting banned in the US because that would be terrible. If there is unequivocal, unhacked evidence that e-cigarettes reduce mortality by a sensible comparison in adults, obviously nothing will be banned, but you ought to be able to see why this is a high bar to meet for children.

Post by dageshi » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:05 PM UTC

acollins1331 wrote: post #103

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It is a misconception that cigars are better than cigarettes. One cigar contains as much tobacco as 15-20 cigarettes and although you are not using lungs to breakdown and absorb smoke, you are using your mouth lining which can lead to all sorts of mouth cancers.

Yeah and your statistics are also misleading because who the hell smokes a full cigar in a sitting?

Post by KUcxrAVrtI » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:43 PM UTC

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Have you stopped smoking really? To me is sounds like someone saying "I don't smoke any more, I just use cigars instead".

As in "no longer inhaling combustion products", certainly. I'll admit it's still a damned silly thing to do... unless it's compared to sticking dead plant matter into your face-hole and setting fire to it. I started smoking at age eleven (it was perfectly legal, and I'd been buying cigarettes legally for more than half of my life by that point - it was as much a normal part of an errand as picking up a quart of milk…