Judge Gives E-Cigarette Makers 10 Months to Seek FDA Review
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Re: Judge Gives E-Cigarette Makers 10 Months to Seek FDA Review
#2What does "seek FDA review" involve? Is 10m an appropriate lead time, or do we expect to see a lot of extension requests?
What's the likelihood that FDA in early 2020 will not again kick the can down the road?
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#3I hope this doesn't result in e-cigs getting banned in the US because that would be terrible. I live in the same house with someone who has been smoking since they were a teenager (quite common where we're from) and e-cigs has allowed them to stop smoking cigarettes which may or may not benefit them that much but it most certainly benefits me (no smell of smoke in the house, no second hand smoking, etc). They have tried quitting multiple times before and nicotine patches, gum, etc.
The article mentions that the group which filed a lawsuit is disputing the effectiveness of e-cigs as "smoking cessation" devices. From my personal experience they most definitely function.
Re: Judge Gives E-Cigarette Makers 10 Months to Seek FDA Review
#4I hope this doesn't result in e-cigs getting banned in the US because that would be terrible. I live in the same house with someone who has been smoking since they were a teenager (quite common where we're from) and e-cigs has allowed them to stop smoking cigarettes which may or may not benefit them that much but it most certainly benefits me (no smell of smoke in the house, no second hand smoking, etc). They have tr…
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#5Me and almost everyone I know who smoked quit using e-cigarettes and they are all adults. But my province (at least the prior party) is obsessed with making them harder and harder to find - at all - because 'think of the children'.
I bet the tobacco industry must love governments right now. They were getting seriously threatened for a moment there.
Re: Judge Gives E-Cigarette Makers 10 Months to Seek FDA Review
#6I hope this doesn't result in e-cigs getting banned in the US because that would be terrible. I live in the same house with someone who has been smoking since they were a teenager (quite common where we're from) and e-cigs has allowed them to stop smoking cigarettes which may or may not benefit them that much but it most certainly benefits me (no smell of smoke in the house, no second hand smoking, etc). They have tr…
> I hope this doesn't result in e-cigs getting banned in the US because that would be terrible.
If there is unequivocal, unhacked evidence that e-cigarettes reduce mortality by a sensible comparison in adults, obviously nothing will be banned, but you ought to be able to see why this is a high bar to meet for children.
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#7What does "seek FDA review" involve? Is 10m an appropriate lead time, or do we expect to see a lot of extension requests? What's the likelihood that FDA in early 2020 will not again kick the can down the road?
I think the main hurdle is that you have to take a huge pile of money and light it on fire as a sacrifice to the FDA. This obviously limits the number of products and vendors that can participate in the market, although it isn't at all clear that it will reduce uptake by non-smokers.
Re: Judge Gives E-Cigarette Makers 10 Months to Seek FDA Review
#8Me and almost everyone I know who smoked quit using e-cigarettes and they are all adults. But my province (at least the prior party) is obsessed with making them harder and harder to find - at all - because 'think of the children'. I bet the tobacco industry must love governments right now. They were getting seriously threatened for a moment there.
The tobacco industry is pivoting hard to ecigs (in the developed world at least, in more corrupt and less regulated countries they are still happily pushing it on teenagers and lobbying to take down anti-tobacco laws and education drives).
It's disgusting. In the US, you've got a massive spike in the number of 12th grade smokers, for the first time in decades. Because ecigs aren't regulated, it's a free for all. The same techniques that worked so well to them in the "golden era" of cigarettes, they're out in force again but for ecigs, amplified even more through the power of social media marketing. The playbook remains the same though: make it appealing, make it "cool" (kids love that), and target the crucial teenage demographic. Make them addicted for life.
Re: Judge Gives E-Cigarette Makers 10 Months to Seek FDA Review
#9I hope this doesn't result in e-cigs getting banned in the US because that would be terrible. I live in the same house with someone who has been smoking since they were a teenager (quite common where we're from) and e-cigs has allowed them to stop smoking cigarettes which may or may not benefit them that much but it most certainly benefits me (no smell of smoke in the house, no second hand smoking, etc). They have tr…
The simple solution there seems to be making e-cigs available via a prescription as a smoking cessation/avoidance device.
Re: Judge Gives E-Cigarette Makers 10 Months to Seek FDA Review
#10I hope this doesn't result in e-cigs getting banned in the US because that would be terrible. I live in the same house with someone who has been smoking since they were a teenager (quite common where we're from) and e-cigs has allowed them to stop smoking cigarettes which may or may not benefit them that much but it most certainly benefits me (no smell of smoke in the house, no second hand smoking, etc). They have tr…
I think they should remain available to adults and for minors by Rx (if they got hooked on tobacco). But I certainly would like to see this better understood and regulated.
I don’t think they should be outright banned like SF is doing, but some regulation and understanding (sci studies) would be good.