Librem 5 July Update

#1

Post by pksadiq » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 4:56 PM UTC

Re: Librem 5 July Update

#2

Post by alexkavon » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 6:24 PM UTC

It looks like the UI is coming together nicely. My only question is what battery life will look like on these phones. I'm guessing terrible for the first gen.

Re: Librem 5 July Update

#3

Post by dmix » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 7:05 PM UTC

Interesting, they are building their own mobile compositor based on wlroots: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/phoc

This is the right way to do an open source phone by adopting existing modern desktop Linux tech. Instead of going your own Androidy path like Sailfish/Jolla is doing.

Re: Librem 5 July Update

#4

Post by alexkavon » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 7:11 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #3

Interesting, they are building their own mobile compositor based on wlroots: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/phoc This is the right way to do an open source phone by adopting existing modern desktop Linux tech. Instead of going your own Androidy path like Sailfish/Jolla is doing.

Yeah worst case scenario Gnome will be better off with some adaptive UI work.

Re: Librem 5 July Update

#5

Post by evross » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 7:17 PM UTC

Always enjoy reading these updates. It's refreshing for a company to explain their progress in this kind of technical detail, another bonus of a free/open source product. Congrats to the Purism team for the progress, looking forward to seeing the new Linux phone.

Re: Librem 5 July Update

#6

Post by woodrowbarlow » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 7:44 PM UTC

the latest shipping update is still Q3 2019 (so 2-5 months away) and yet the marketing page still has a lot of hardware that is TBD: memory, cameras, and battery.

who wants to bet it will be pushed back to 2020?

Re: Librem 5 July Update

#7

Post by Jach » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 7:50 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #3

Interesting, they are building their own mobile compositor based on wlroots: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/phoc This is the right way to do an open source phone by adopting existing modern desktop Linux tech. Instead of going your own Androidy path like Sailfish/Jolla is doing.

Yeah. Though I also wish someone would tackle this from a hardware perspective too. I'm looking forward to being able to run various linux programs on a real linux phone, but many are never going to be touch-screen friendly let alone mobile-layout friendly. A phone with a little pointer nub and left-click/right-click buttons would be sweet to me...

Re: Librem 5 July Update

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Post by NedIsakoff » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 7:59 PM UTC

woodrowbarlow wrote: post #6

the latest shipping update is still Q3 2019 (so 2-5 months away) and yet the marketing page still has a lot of hardware that is TBD: memory, cameras, and battery. who wants to bet it will be pushed back to 2020?

Which is my I'm not pre-ordering, I'm waiting till the final specs are released. Also I need to be able to view PDF documents, so probably gonna be a while.

Re: Librem 5 July Update

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Post by mikece » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:10 PM UTC

Have they said anything about PWA support? If PWA is supported and on par with Chrome on Android this would allow a lot of PWA-compliant web apps (like Twitter, Gmail, and many more) to be ready to go right away. While not "native" the app ecosystem would at least have a chance to be there at the time of release.

Re: Librem 5 July Update

#10

Post by ocdtrekkie » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 8:11 PM UTC

Jach wrote: post #7

dmix wrote: post #3

Interesting, they are building their own mobile compositor based on wlroots: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/phoc This is the right way to do an open source phone by adopting existing modern desktop Linux tech. Instead of going your own Androidy path like Sailfish/Jolla is doing.

Yeah. Though I also wish someone would tackle this from a hardware perspective too. I'm looking forward to being able to run various linux programs on a real linux phone, but many are never going to be touch-screen friendly let alone mobile-layout friendly. A phone with a little pointer nub and left-click/right-click buttons would be sweet to me...

I mean, I think if you can run real Linux programs, and a lot of your "daily use" stuff works with touch, you can connect a Bluetooth mouse/keyboard combo when you need it. (I already keep one in my car.) And being Linux, you can probably script a bunch of stuff (when using your keyboard) to "just work" when you're not using your keyboard.

The important part is you won't need to special case what you can run on a phone versus what you can run on a desktop. A lot of stupid/simple Windows apps I wish I could run on my phone. But even if you are on Windows Phone you could only run apps meant for it.