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Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Post by dahdum »

minikites wrote: post #8

>Chamberlain edits each video she makes for between 20 and 30 hours, often at stretches of 10 or 15 hours at a time. Like other professional social media users, the work has taken a physical toll on her. (She releases roughly one video a week.) She used to edit at a desktop, but she developed back pain. Now she works from her bed. She keeps blue mood lighting on, but her vision has deteriorated. She works harder than…

I don't quite understand how her "physical toll" is any greater than other computer workers, other than she now does her work in bed. It's certainly a lighter load than any labor or trade job, so that part of the article falls flat to me.

She should be lauded for producing something people want to see, with no external harm, that makes her a living. That's difficult, unstable, and stressful. It could disappear overnight from a gaffe or any number of other causes both within and outside her control.

Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Post by asark »

mattmanser wrote: post #28
mothsonasloth wrote: post #21

[Warning cynical and bitter post below] Ah, Youtubers. I am not sure what's more tragic about them; making hyperbolic or fake events to attract viewers. Or allowing viewers a "no-bars" tour around their personal lives and sometimes their own heads. Or is the real tragedy the viewers, who binge vicariously into these empty vessels. Relishing in the rise, peak and eventual fall from fame of these online stars, with all…

I find this comment snobbish, arrogant and crass. I don't believe it belongs on HN. In insulting other people lives and how they enjoy them, all you have shown is that you're an intolerant, elitist asshole.

The common factor in most of the jobs that post was about is that bullshit (lying) is so effective in their execution that the bullshitters tend to squeeze out the non-bullshitters very effectively, with some exceptions (...or are they exceptions? Who knows.) The lower your tolerance for "acceptable" self-interested lying the more likely you are to be grossed out by the whole online media/marketing career scene.

Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Post by AwesomeFaic »

mothsonasloth wrote: post #21

[Warning cynical and bitter post below] Ah, Youtubers. I am not sure what's more tragic about them; making hyperbolic or fake events to attract viewers. Or allowing viewers a "no-bars" tour around their personal lives and sometimes their own heads. Or is the real tragedy the viewers, who binge vicariously into these empty vessels. Relishing in the rise, peak and eventual fall from fame of these online stars, with all…

As a frequent traveler who very much shares your cynicism on the aforementioned, I've used that negativity to motivate me to work on a blog specifically against disrespectful, mindless, and destructive behavior while traveling internationally. Not that it offsets the damage done by these "influencers", especially since their attention dwarfs content like mine, but hopefully more of us can utilize these negative feelings to contribute more meaningful and responsible content to the digital landscape. wanderandponder.com

Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Post by brownbat »

jadel wrote: post #11

Honestly I don't think there is much to be seen. Young people are playing the hand they have been dealt, it just isn't a very good one.

"Joel got the idea for the song when he had just turned 40. He was in a recording studio and met a friend of Sean Lennon who had just turned 21 who said 'It's a terrible time to be 21!' Joel replied to him, 'Yeah, I remember when I was 21 – I thought it was an awful time and we had Vietnam, and y'know, drug problems, and civil rights problems and everything seemed to be awful.' The friend replied, 'Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's different for you. You were a kid in the fifties and everybody knows that nothing happened in the fifties.' Joel retorted, 'Wait a minute, didn't you hear of the Korean War or the Suez Canal Crisis?' Joel later said those headlines formed the basic framework for the song."

Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Post by celticmusic »

mothsonasloth wrote: post #21

[Warning cynical and bitter post below] Ah, Youtubers. I am not sure what's more tragic about them; making hyperbolic or fake events to attract viewers. Or allowing viewers a "no-bars" tour around their personal lives and sometimes their own heads. Or is the real tragedy the viewers, who binge vicariously into these empty vessels. Relishing in the rise, peak and eventual fall from fame of these online stars, with all…

and the worst part is that after the 5th literally in 2 sentences I closed the video.

Maybe I'm just that old guy screaming at the kids to get the hell off my lawn, but I found the communication style to be obnoxious.

Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Post by celticmusic »

mattmanser wrote: post #28
mothsonasloth wrote: post #21

[Warning cynical and bitter post below] Ah, Youtubers. I am not sure what's more tragic about them; making hyperbolic or fake events to attract viewers. Or allowing viewers a "no-bars" tour around their personal lives and sometimes their own heads. Or is the real tragedy the viewers, who binge vicariously into these empty vessels. Relishing in the rise, peak and eventual fall from fame of these online stars, with all…

I find this comment snobbish, arrogant and crass. I don't believe it belongs on HN. In insulting other people lives and how they enjoy them, all you have shown is that you're an intolerant, elitist asshole.

or ... you know ... they have an opinion.

Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Post by dgellow »

brownbat wrote: post #36
jadel wrote: post #11

Honestly I don't think there is much to be seen. Young people are playing the hand they have been dealt, it just isn't a very good one.

"Joel got the idea for the song when he had just turned 40. He was in a recording studio and met a friend of Sean Lennon who had just turned 21 who said 'It's a terrible time to be 21!' Joel replied to him, 'Yeah, I remember when I was 21 – I thought it was an awful time and we had Vietnam, and y'know, drug problems, and civil rights problems and everything seemed to be awful.' The friend replied, 'Yeah, yeah, yeah,…

Which song?

Re: Emma Chamberlain dropped out of school and changed the world of online video

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Post by celticmusic »

number101010 wrote: post #19
majos wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My conjecture, for which I offer no proof: people get a lot of utility from friendship, especially if that friendship is with someone popular/fun/cool/beautiful. People are also not very good at distinguishing "I see this person on a screen every day and it's like we're hanging out" from "I hang out with this person every day". Way back when this effect played out in the way people connected with the people on their…

I have noticed this effect in myself while watching streamers on Twitch. You start to feel like you're sitting on a couch with your buddy playing a game.

perhaps this is why I've never been able to get into streamers. About the only online content of that type I've been able to consume is HCBailey's lets play series, and that's because he does old school FF, et al, and I enjoy the nostalgia. It's more about the game than the person, although I think he does a great job.

But otherwise, the entire culture of watching other people online is weird to me.

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