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Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by thekyle »

danskeren wrote: post #78
thekyle wrote: post #70

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I would assume they send the IP so that Bing will return location specific search results for weather, local businesses and such. I see no reason to assume malicious intent.

What’s stopping them from performing an offline IP location lookup and requesting location specific search results without sharing the IP with Microsoft?

I'm not sure if that is a feature that the Bing API supports. I couldn't find anything about looking up coordinates in the docs: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/bi....

Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by pier25 »

sanbor wrote: post #64
pier25 wrote: post #58

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Half the population would produce half the emissions and consume half the resources considering the same emissions per capita per country and equivalent population density per country.

We cannot kill half of the population but we can consume half. We could avoid replacing phones every two years. We could eat less meat. We could avoid having so many cars.

We could consume half, we could even impose laws controlling consumption of resources, natality, etc, but since these would be pretty unpopular no politician would consider that unless it's probably too late.

Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by pier25 »

jordigh wrote: post #68
pier25 wrote: post #43

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> Runaway consumption is what has gotten us into this ecological mess in the first place. In part. If instead of almost 8 billion humans there were 4 billions we wouldn't be in this mess either.

Global warming was first becoming convincing in the 1960s, when the world's population was well under 4.0e9, but industrialised nations were enjoying post-WW2 economic prosperity.

Humans generally follow the path of most comfort, not the difficult road guided by abstract ideas.

Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by k_sze »

There was a recent article about planting the wrong kind of trees in Ireland [1]. What do we know about Ecosia’s tree-planting partners? It would be great to have more oversight over the tree-planting, maybe even let users have “voting” power (decide which tree-planting partner to benefit from the proceedings of your search results, kinda like how Humble Bundle let’s you choose which charity to give to).

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20380793

Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by gay-Bullshit »

Wow. Pretending that ads make a difference.

I think we all know the truth. Even if you look at ads. Even if you click on ads.

Looking at bullshit (or pretending to) with no intent to commit and buy isn't valuable.

Imagine an auto dealership with continuous foot traffic and no sales. At some point, the truth becomes obvious.

It's like a corner gas station at an intersection with a long, slow traffic light. First they post a sign that says "no through traffic" because people route around the red light. At some point they start calling the cops, and a patrol car starts writing tickets for bypassing the intersection via private property.

Everyone loves to pretend that ads are valuable but they aren't.

Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by danskeren »

thekyle wrote: post #81
danskeren wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s stopping them from performing an offline IP location lookup and requesting location specific search results without sharing the IP with Microsoft?

I'm not sure if that is a feature that the Bing API supports. I couldn't find anything about looking up coordinates in the docs: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/bi... .

Yeah their documentation is dreadful, but they could just append loc:countryCode to the query before making the API request: e.g. ‘attractions loc:dk’.. at least that works for me despite some people mentioning this filter is no longer supported.

Not sure how DDG and other search engines that rely on Bing does it, but it’s certainly possible without sharing the users’ IP with Microsoft.

Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by shapiro92 »

sanbor wrote: post #64
pier25 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Half the population would produce half the emissions and consume half the resources considering the same emissions per capita per country and equivalent population density per country.

We cannot kill half of the population but we can consume half. We could avoid replacing phones every two years. We could eat less meat. We could avoid having so many cars.

you cannot consume half. (not talking about phones) but if a human needs X food then he cant half it. you can replace with X with half Y and half Z but the logistics is the same.

The issue is overpopulation. You need a specific amount of resources to sustain that number. you cant half it without halfing the population

Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by tazard »

TylerE wrote: post #54
WA wrote: post #32

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Sure, here you go: https://ecosia.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/206019452-How-d... Like any other search engine, Ecosia earns money from clicks on the advertisements that appear above and beside the search results. The advertisements on Ecosia are clearly labeled as Ads and are text links to websites that pay for each click by users. The ads are delivered to you by our partner Bing, who pays Ecosia a share of the rev…

Somehow the math doesn't add up for me. If these numbers are to be believed, planting a tree costs maybe 50 cents, max. I am....skeptical.

When I planted trees I got around $0.25 per tree. Some of the other companies paid as low as $0.09.

Re: Plant trees while you search the web

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Post by sanbor »

shapiro92 wrote: post #87
sanbor wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We cannot kill half of the population but we can consume half. We could avoid replacing phones every two years. We could eat less meat. We could avoid having so many cars.

you cannot consume half. (not talking about phones) but if a human needs X food then he cant half it. you can replace with X with half Y and half Z but the logistics is the same. The issue is overpopulation. You need a specific amount of resources to sustain that number. you cant half it without halfing the population

How do you explain that people in US produces 4 times the average CO2 emissions?
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