Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or maybe it's because the internet is tendentially becoming just a few companies' data centers? Afaik Twitter moved to GCP a few months ago. Maybe this is another Google outage?
> tendentially Is this a word? You don't mean tangentially? I'm having a crisis right now.
Twitter was down
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#322So storytime! I worked at Twitter as a contractor in 2008 (my job was to make internal hockey-stick graphs of usage to impress investors) during the Fail Whale era. The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer (the kind with elaborate wire bottle caps that tell you it's expensive). I would in…
The second story had me in tears. Especially given that I'm building a similarly scary query right now (thankfully not against live).
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
I (don't) like how you exclude Russia, China, Iran and somebody from your definition of 'us'.
The assumption is that Russia, China, Iran are less dependent on Google, Twitter, etc., in part because some of them aren't allowed to operate in those countries, in part because some of them are much less dominant in those markets. 'Us' means 'people who might care that Twitter (or whoever) is down'.
Google, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, etc, all legally operate in Russia.
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly, for most people Twitter is mainstream media.
Twitter is not that popular. The problem is that mainstream journalists spend too much time on it and confuse it for the real world. How many "news" stories are just repackaged tweets? A lot.
What is the definition of "mainstream"?
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#326Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…
Another possibility: US (or other) authorities are requiring some sort of monitoring software or hardware that where disruption of service is unavoidable during install
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
What the hell are all of you smoking, some moderately expensive alcohol is nowhere near enough reward to take down a service.
Operant conditioning is a thing and it works. While I and you would not do this I’m afraid that it would somehow find a way to work in this case too.
Ops engineers don't get paid enough to fix dev fuck ups enough as it is. No amount of beer is going to fix that.
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#328Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…
#4 I work at Facebook. I worked at Twitter. I worked at CloudFlare. The answer is nothing other than #4. #1 has the right premise but the wrong conclusion. Software complexity will continue escalating until it drops by either commoditization or redefining problems. Companies at the scale of FAANG(+T) continually accumulate tech debt in pockets and they eventually become the biggest threats to availability. Not the ne…
Can you clarify what redefining problems would mean (with an eg)?
Re: Twitter was down
#329Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…
There is a silent civil war going on to free the users from malicious social technocracy
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or maybe it's because the internet is tendentially becoming just a few companies' data centers? Afaik Twitter moved to GCP a few months ago. Maybe this is another Google outage?
> tendentially Is this a word? You don't mean tangentially? I'm having a crisis right now.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/tendentially
Probably meant tangentially anyway.