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Re: Twitter was down

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Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

so like all software has reached peak complexity this month?

It seems a bit of a coincidence, yes? Unless they are all copying each other (e.g. all using Kubernetes or what-have-you), in which case it might be less of a coincidence.

Re: Twitter was down

#303

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Oh, sure. But Apple, Google, Cloudflare, Stripe, Slack, Microsoft, we're getting to more than five even...

Reddit went down this morning too

Reddit being up for 24 hours or generating pages in less than 3 seconds would be noteworthy.

Re: Twitter was down

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I found Gab [0] to be quite a viable alternative to Twitter due to its decentralised nature thanks to Mastodon so that downtimes like this cannot happen on the platform. [0] - https://gab.ai

Is this the neo-nazi Twitter alternative?

As much of my disgust of these people, I can find you literal Nazi's that are still on Twitter.

Re: Twitter was down

#305

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

The other possibility is intern season (I'm 99.99% joking)

I'm 99.99% laughing (and 0.01% thinking 'uh oh').

Re: Twitter was down

#306

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

Taking down Twitter could be a huge boon for the economy, though.

Productivity skyrockets!

Re: Twitter was down

#307
post #211

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

I (don't) like how you exclude Russia, China, Iran and somebody from your definition of 'us'.

His definition of "us" seems to just be "Americans". Which is fine because he's talking about American companies...

Re: Twitter was down

#308

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

6) White House social media conference just started. https://www.10tv.com/article/trump-hosts-white-house-summit-...

Really not a good look.

Re: Twitter was down

#309

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

Software is getting increasingly complex. Why? To ensure better uptime, amongst other things. The funny part is that all the complexity often leads to downtime.

A single server would usually have less downtime than Google, Facebook and so on. But Google and Facebook needs this complexity to handle the amount of traffic they're getting.

Makes me wonder why people are trying to do stuff like Google when they're not Google. Keeping it simple is the best solution.

Re: Twitter was down

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Less likely since it looks fine from GCP status page. Hmm, it seems that Twitter already figured it out, configuration change issues again.

Probably because we all use Kubernetes and YAML files and 100% of configuration failures are "oh shit, I used two spaces instead of 4, we're fucked".

Something like this is my bet too, there was a recent post somewhere called something like "why all outages are due to a configuration change". There are monocultures in site reliability ops for big companies, "configuration over code" but with heavy automation too. From my outside view it seems there's a tradeoff when you do that between more frequent smaller issues and less frequent bigger issues. Also reminds me of Google's move away from eventual consistency because with their infrastructure they can make a CP system highly available in practice... except when it isn't, due to a botched configuration change.
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