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No limit: AI poker bot is first to beat professionals at multiplayer game

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Re: No limit: AI poker bot is first to beat professionals at multiplayer game

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post #11

I'm one of the authors of the bot, AMA

Why did you optimize for using less cpus? Was it a happy accident or a goal?

A little bit of both. We didn't think we needed the extra computing power. And we really wanted to convey how cheap it is to make a superstrong poker AI with these latest algorithms.

Re: No limit: AI poker bot is first to beat professionals at multiplayer game

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I'm one of the authors of the bot, AMA

Are there any ethical considerations relating to the prospect of use of this bot for cheating in real-money games? Either from your internal team or after public replication?

Re: No limit: AI poker bot is first to beat professionals at multiplayer game

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So let me see if I understand this. I don't believe it's hard to write a probabilistic program to play poker. That's enough to win against humans in 2-player.

With one AI and multiple professional human players sitting at a physical table, the humans outperform the probabilistic model because they take advantage of each other's mistakes/styles. Some players crash out faster but the winner gets ahead of the safe probabilistic style of play.

So this bot is better at the current professional player meta than the current players. In a 1v1 against a probabilistic model, it would probably also lose?

Am I understanding this properly? Or is playing the probabilistic model directly enough of a tell that it's also losing strategy? Meaning you need some variation of strategies, strategy detection, or knowledge of the meta to win?

Re: No limit: AI poker bot is first to beat professionals at multiplayer game

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Blog post: https://ai.facebook.com/blog/pluribus-first-ai-to-beat-pros-... Science article: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2019/07/10/scie...

The FB post is much more detailed and I think the link on this post should be updated to point there.

Re: No limit: AI poker bot is first to beat professionals at multiplayer game

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How long until a slightly worse version of this model is reverse engineered and appears at every table in online poker?

Plenty of systems already exist that can win against weaker players and/or at limit (especially limit heads-up).

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I was really hoping the article would go into more detail on how the AI engaged with the human players. Was it online? the picture on the article seems to imply IRL. If IRL, what inputs did it have, simply cards shown or could it read tells? Did those players know they were playing an AI?

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Re: No limit: AI poker bot is first to beat professionals at multiplayer game

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post #9

I'm one of the authors of the bot, AMA

The progress you have made in this research field is amazing. What do you think will be next step or where do you the the future of your research?

Thanks! I think going beyond two-player/team zero-sum games is really important. This was a first step, but it's definitely not the last. I'm hoping to continue in this direction, and maybe start looking at interactions involving the potential for cooperation in addition to competition.

Re: No limit: AI poker bot is first to beat professionals at multiplayer game

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I'm one of the authors of the bot, AMA

The article makes it sound like the AI is trained by evaluating results of decisions it makes on a per-hand basis. Is there any sense in which the AI learns about strategies that depend upon multiple hands? I’m thinking of bluffing/detecting bluffs and identifying recent patterns, which is something human poker players talk about.
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