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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by [deleted] »

indigochill wrote: post #83
danso wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that today was the White House's "Social Media Summit", no doubt there will be a few conspiracies floated. I'm betting "Twitter wanted to block out all the criticism coming form the summit!" will be a popular one.

I've got a couple conspiracy theories at the moment: 1. It's a deployment of some infrastructure change the government got the big tech companies to sign onto. 2. It's a "shot across the bow" from some external party to demonstrate their control over major infrastructure. 2.a. Also could have been a mix of 1 and 2. The government orchestrated the outages in order to add fuel to the hysteria over Chinese "spy chips".…

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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by edwintorok »

kevinlou wrote: post #3

It's weird seeing the go-to downtime tracker go down. I'm so wired to check Twitter that I kept refreshing for a good 10 seconds.

Time to make HN the go-to downtime tracker. Did anyone measure HN's uptime over the past years?

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by nomadlogic »

dubcanada wrote: post #106
idlewords wrote: post #82

So storytime! I worked at Twitter as a contractor in 2008 (my job was to make internal hockey-stick graphs of usage to impress investors) during the Fail Whale era. The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer (the kind with elaborate wire bottle caps that tell you it's expensive). I would in…

"I would intercept these rewards and put them in my backpack for the bus ride home, in order to avoid creating perverse incentives for the operations team. But did anyone call me 'hero'?" Wait so you stole rewards for a team that was spending time (I assume extra or stressful) on something you didn't do or have any part in. And you want a cookie? I mean I get it, the company was probably not great in it's infancy. Bu…

yea as an ops engineer that's probably the worst violation of trust i've ever heard of.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by pgrote »

dubcanada wrote: post #106
idlewords wrote: post #82

So storytime! I worked at Twitter as a contractor in 2008 (my job was to make internal hockey-stick graphs of usage to impress investors) during the Fail Whale era. The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer (the kind with elaborate wire bottle caps that tell you it's expensive). I would in…

"I would intercept these rewards and put them in my backpack for the bus ride home, in order to avoid creating perverse incentives for the operations team. But did anyone call me 'hero'?" Wait so you stole rewards for a team that was spending time (I assume extra or stressful) on something you didn't do or have any part in. And you want a cookie? I mean I get it, the company was probably not great in it's infancy. Bu…

I think OP is saying the rewards were confiscated so the team wouldn't begin breaking things on purpose to get a reward when they fixed it.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by MrStonedOne »

rossdavidh wrote: post #100

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

Operational consistency creates a hidden single point of failure.

If everybody is doing the same things and setting things up the same way to ensure reliability then any failures or short comings in that system are shared by all.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by dubcanada »

CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #120
dubcanada wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I would intercept these rewards and put them in my backpack for the bus ride home, in order to avoid creating perverse incentives for the operations team. But did anyone call me 'hero'?" Wait so you stole rewards for a team that was spending time (I assume extra or stressful) on something you didn't do or have any part in. And you want a cookie? I mean I get it, the company was probably not great in it's infancy. Bu…

Finally we get the long awaited sequel to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest ... One flew over the dubcanada's head.

Wait what did I miss something? lol

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by 100100010001 »

idlewords wrote: post #82

So storytime! I worked at Twitter as a contractor in 2008 (my job was to make internal hockey-stick graphs of usage to impress investors) during the Fail Whale era. The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer (the kind with elaborate wire bottle caps that tell you it's expensive). I would in…

Hero? You’re a villain who steps on teammates. The worst part is you thought it’d be okay to share that and think we’d be on your side. Have you no shame?

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by outworlder »

rossdavidh wrote: post #100

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

Brains are excellent pattern matchers.

Brains also suck at statistics.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by georgehotelling »

rococode wrote: post #113
lukey_q wrote: post #25

A lot of high-profile outages recently. Can't actually remember the last time Twitter went fully down. Have to confess I immediately assumed an issue with my own connection, even though every other site is working. Unrelated, but for some reason the phrase "I have no mouth and I must scream" just popped into my head

Twitter is especially weird for this since it's often a platform where people talk about downtimes. I don't see this downtime mentioned on Reddit and I don't know of other sites where it might be discussed, so if Hacker News happened to go down at the same time, where would I go to talk about it with online strangers and find out if it's just me? Nowhere, I guess, I'd just wait it out with no extra insights on what's…

reddit feels like it has about a 4 hour lag time on most "breaking" events.
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