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Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’

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Re: Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’

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> They do what they do because they believe that Apple’s App Store is unfair to consumers since it has no trial service or refund policy.

BS. They do this because they don't want to bother with paying a couple of bucks for an app. Plenty of apps are cracked, which actually offer a free version for testing. It's even factually wrong. Refund is possible…

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> They do what they do because they believe that Apple’s App Store is unfair to consumers since it has no trial service or refund policy. BS. They do this because they don't want to bother with paying a couple of bucks for an app. Plenty of apps are cracked, which actually offer a free version for testing. It's even factually wrong. Refund is possible…

Refund is not exactly easy though. There is the initial challenge that puts off a lot of users from even attempting to. A google style model(using a time limit from purchase to deletion) would be much fairer.

Though it does seem obvious to me that these people are just after a way not to pay for software. This tool will just increase the pirated crap.

Re: Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’

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> They do what they do because they believe that Apple’s App Store is unfair to consumers since it has no trial service or refund policy. BS. They do this because they don't want to bother with paying a couple of bucks for an app. Plenty of apps are cracked, which actually offer a free version for testing. It's even factually wrong. Refund is possible…

Yeah, it is horsepuckey. Large groups of people have learned that there is no social censure for stealing certain types of goods. Stealing is strictly superior to buying for them. They'll steal it if it is possible. I have both trials and a very generous refund policy, and my downloadable app gets stolen frequently. (And my web app gets stolen never, which should be a preview of coming attractions for people who are going to wake up one day and wonder why nothing functions without an Internet connection.)

Re: Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’

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> They do what they do because they believe that Apple’s App Store is unfair to consumers since it has no trial service or refund policy. BS. They do this because they don't want to bother with paying a couple of bucks for an app. Plenty of apps are cracked, which actually offer a free version for testing. It's even factually wrong. Refund is possible…

Yeah, it is horsepuckey. Large groups of people have learned that there is no social censure for stealing certain types of goods. Stealing is strictly superior to buying for them. They'll steal it if it is possible. I have both trials and a very generous refund policy, and my downloadable app gets stolen frequently. (And my web app gets stolen never, which should be a preview of coming attractions for people who are…

Piracy is not theft. Theft requires that one is deprived of some tangible benefit. Downloads cannot be strictly correlated to lost sales, because many download to sample, or download things they wouldn't spend money on anyway.

This doesn't mean you have to agree with filesharing, or think it's a good thing, or participate in it, but calling it "theft" is scaremongering.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it is horsepuckey. Large groups of people have learned that there is no social censure for stealing certain types of goods. Stealing is strictly superior to buying for them. They'll steal it if it is possible. I have both trials and a very generous refund policy, and my downloadable app gets stolen frequently. (And my web app gets stolen never, which should be a preview of coming attractions for people who are…

Piracy is not theft. Theft requires that one is deprived of some tangible benefit. Downloads cannot be strictly correlated to lost sales, because many download to sample, or download things they wouldn't spend money on anyway. This doesn't mean you have to agree with filesharing, or think it's a good thing, or participate in it, but calling it "theft" is scaremongering.

Does that mean if I steal a yacht that it's not theft because I wouldn't have bought one anyway? Your logic seems flawed to me.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy is not theft. Theft requires that one is deprived of some tangible benefit. Downloads cannot be strictly correlated to lost sales, because many download to sample, or download things they wouldn't spend money on anyway. This doesn't mean you have to agree with filesharing, or think it's a good thing, or participate in it, but calling it "theft" is scaremongering.

Does that mean if I steal a yacht that it's not theft because I wouldn't have bought one anyway? Your logic seems flawed to me.

A better analogy would be drawing up plans from his yacht and using them to build another yacht for yourself. This is illegal, but it would be silly to claim that it is "stealing" from the yacht manufacturer.

Re: Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy is not theft. Theft requires that one is deprived of some tangible benefit. Downloads cannot be strictly correlated to lost sales, because many download to sample, or download things they wouldn't spend money on anyway. This doesn't mean you have to agree with filesharing, or think it's a good thing, or participate in it, but calling it "theft" is scaremongering.

Does that mean if I steal a yacht that it's not theft because I wouldn't have bought one anyway? Your logic seems flawed to me.

It's stealing because you're depriving someone of that yacht. It's not a lost sale because you wouldn't have bought one.

Re: Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy is not theft. Theft requires that one is deprived of some tangible benefit. Downloads cannot be strictly correlated to lost sales, because many download to sample, or download things they wouldn't spend money on anyway. This doesn't mean you have to agree with filesharing, or think it's a good thing, or participate in it, but calling it "theft" is scaremongering.

Does that mean if I steal a yacht that it's not theft because I wouldn't have bought one anyway? Your logic seems flawed to me.

It’s not really important whether it’s ‘theft’ or not, that’s just not relevant to the question whether it is morally acceptable or not.

Re: Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it is horsepuckey. Large groups of people have learned that there is no social censure for stealing certain types of goods. Stealing is strictly superior to buying for them. They'll steal it if it is possible. I have both trials and a very generous refund policy, and my downloadable app gets stolen frequently. (And my web app gets stolen never, which should be a preview of coming attractions for people who are…

Piracy is not theft. Theft requires that one is deprived of some tangible benefit. Downloads cannot be strictly correlated to lost sales, because many download to sample, or download things they wouldn't spend money on anyway. This doesn't mean you have to agree with filesharing, or think it's a good thing, or participate in it, but calling it "theft" is scaremongering.

>> Piracy is not theft.

No, some piracy is not theft. And some is.

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