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Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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While I agree with you I have to say there is real improvement Apple has made: eGPU.

Wonderful concept, I really hope that apple starts supporting nvidia gpus, I can’t work without cuda...

This. What’s the point in an external GPU you can’t even use for deep learning. Why do apple get nVidia so much anyway?

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Touch Bar turns in to the entire keyboard. Surprise, no more stuck keys!

The 12” MacBook is the only laptop model I’ve purchased twice. Very disappointed to see it get the axe. I bought one in 2015 despite only reading negative reviews, stuck key issue was there for a few days on and off in the beginning and then never an issue again.

If you travel a lot, the extra weight of the MacBook and the charger along with the tiny dimensions makes it almost unnoticeable thrown in a backpack.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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I really (really!) appreciate how thin they are. The new 15in is as heavy as the old 13in. Really nice when you have to carry it around all the time. The biggest pain point is the lack of ports (4 ports including power) is not enough. The older models had around 5+ ports and still required dongles. Everything else aside from the keyboard is a minor issue (e.g. getting more ram today versus in the future is just a que…

> getting more ram today versus in the future is just a question of deferring costs Not really. I had a 2011 MacBook. In 2015 I was able to upgrade the RAM to chips that didn't exist in 2011. Technically they weren't supported, but they worked just fine. I couldn't have done that if the chips were soldered to the board. I also upgraded the drive from spinning disk to a much larger SSD. Again an upgrade I couldn't hav…

I’m still using my 2011 due to the ability to update the RAM and SSD. I’m moving to a Windows 10/iPad/server setup, but I still use my laptop on occasion.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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RIP Macbook. You have been my favourite machine for a long time.

I can't imagine being on an airplane with anything but my trusty MacBook. Thinking of picking up a refurb one now to replace my 2 year old version.

I also have a 13 MacBook Pro which I haven't touched in over a year.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

I'm certain people who are OK with the touch bar don't care about it as much as the people who hate it, but I for one prefer that they are iteratively innovating on the keyboard for macs. I'd rather they do that than make a thick brick of a laptop with a row of mostly useless function keys that a vocal minority has been harping for.

The keyboard was previously awesome. Just put the old version back. Why iterate on something that sucks. The form sucks, the switches suck, the arrow key layout sucks. Go back to the good times of the <= 2015 boards.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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> the air is the low end model (for apple at least); you get this if you want the cheapest possible apple laptop. if you want to spend more money, you pick between the ultraportable macbook or a more powerful macbook pro. That's how it was before this announcement. Now the MacBook is gone, leaving the updated MacBook Air as the most portable option. This makes a lot more sense, since the "Air" name was meant to denot…

The Air is only slightly thinner and 0.25 lb lighter than the 13” Pro. I’ve had an Air since 2012 and just compared the two, and got the Pro. There’s essentially no difference in portability. But there are significant differences in capability and price. I think Apple killed the 12” MacBook because for most people, an iPad is a better ultraportable than a laptop. The folks who are really adamant about laptops with Ma…

oddly enough, the 12" macbook is the only apple device I was ever interested in. it seemed like a great alternative to an xps 13 if I ever wanted to get into the mac world. lots of devs these days only need a computer capable of running an ssh client. if that's you and you also have a workstation, why not get the thinnest, lightest laptop out there that runs your favorite OS?

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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The price is not even that outrageous. When specified similar to the top-of-the-line ThinkPad X1 Carbon it's only $200 more, and you're getting a better display.

Using similar specs, (i7, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD, UHD screen) the MBP is $600 more than the XPS 13. And the XPS gives you the option for a 1080p screen, saving money and increasing But price aside, the real deal breaker for me is the soldered in SSD on the MBP. Being able to upgrade or recover data by removing the SSD is a huge benefit in my opinion.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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I'm certain people who are OK with the touch bar don't care about it as much as the people who hate it, but I for one prefer that they are iteratively innovating on the keyboard for macs. I'd rather they do that than make a thick brick of a laptop with a row of mostly useless function keys that a vocal minority has been harping for.

my 2015 Pro is so much better than mycompany 2017 Pro w/ touchbar like people are saying, most people just don't care about the touchbar. It does get annoying at times (as a vim user). Why WHY do they hide the esc key and have it take two inputs to increase the volume/brightness by more than 1 tick (sliding is terrible). Other than that, I totally agree, the real focus should be the keyboard. Because it's shit. Here…

For your keyboard problems, just get it repaired. It's free under a four-year warranty, and it usually only takes one day: Just drop it off at an Apple store, and pick it back up the next day.

(Also, if you're a vim user, you should really remap Caps Lock to Esc. There's a pane in System Preferences for it, and it should be done whether or not you have a touch bar.)

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