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Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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I'm certain people who are OK with the touch bar don't care about it as much as the people who hate it, but I for one prefer that they are iteratively innovating on the keyboard for macs. I'd rather they do that than make a thick brick of a laptop with a row of mostly useless function keys that a vocal minority has been harping for.

my 2015 Pro is so much better than mycompany 2017 Pro w/ touchbar like people are saying, most people just don't care about the touchbar. It does get annoying at times (as a vim user). Why WHY do they hide the esc key and have it take two inputs to increase the volume/brightness by more than 1 tick (sliding is terrible). Other than that, I totally agree, the real focus should be the keyboard. Because it's shit. Here…

You can just put your finger on the volume or brightness icon and slide it. You don’t have to pick it up or wait for the slider to appear.

You can also set the esc key to stay visible.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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I like my 2019 MBP because it's thin, has a better display, has a great trackpad, decent keyboard, and a touchbar that I use fairly frequently for auto-complete.

Displays and trackpads are still something Apple does very well, maybe better than anyone else.

I can't stand the current MBP trackpad. It's too big and too easy to accidentally touch.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Macbook Pro "improvements" over the last 3-7 years: * No more matte display * RAM soldered to the board * SSD soldered in * remove all ports except USB-C * make keyboard worse * remove function keys, replace with touch surface that's redundant at best But it's very thin! And even thinner was the recent Macbook, and if the law of "diminishing returns" matters as little as the usual defenses of all the above tradeoffs…

I also hate that MacBook Pro touchpads are oversized and easy to touch with your thumbs by accident. I had one issued for a job and had annoying, error-inducing swipes about three times a day.

You complained about the best part of the Macbook, the trackpad! I wish I could get that Mac trackpad on my thinkpad x1

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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For all the devs wondering how to replace their MacBook Pros: I highly recommend running Linux on a Lenovo X1 Carbon. I've also heard good things about System76.

I'm a hard +1 on this. Currently running Linux on an X1 carbon 6th gen and it is fantastic.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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RIP Macbook. You have been my favourite machine for a long time.

The 11” Air was one of my all time favorite laptops and the 12” rMB was such a great replacement.

The 2015 11" Air was the best performance / value macbook Apple has ever made.

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The price is not even that outrageous. When specified similar to the top-of-the-line ThinkPad X1 Carbon it's only $200 more, and you're getting a better display.

The X1C6 is pretty expensive unless you’re doing some Lenovo EPP swindle.

The X1C7 just came out so the price will be dropping like a stone on the 6th gen pretty soon.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

If you want to enjoy the touchbar you have to have https://pock.dev which is free

Nice that there’s a free version. $ -> BetterTouchTool https://folivora.ai/

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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I think you are exaggerating how confusing the apple product stack is. I'm no apple fan and I know roughly what to expect from each model. the air is the low end model (for apple at least); you get this if you want the cheapest possible apple laptop. if you want to spend more money, you pick between the ultraportable macbook or a more powerful macbook pro. I couldn't tell you the difference between all the iphones an…

> the air is the low end model (for apple at least); you get this if you want the cheapest possible apple laptop. if you want to spend more money, you pick between the ultraportable macbook or a more powerful macbook pro. That's how it was before this announcement. Now the MacBook is gone, leaving the updated MacBook Air as the most portable option. This makes a lot more sense, since the "Air" name was meant to denot…

The Air is only slightly thinner and 0.25 lb lighter than the 13” Pro. I’ve had an Air since 2012 and just compared the two, and got the Pro. There’s essentially no difference in portability. But there are significant differences in capability and price.

I think Apple killed the 12” MacBook because for most people, an iPad is a better ultraportable than a laptop. The folks who are really adamant about laptops with Mac OS are developers, and the MacBook had a bad ratio of cost to power for most devs.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Displays and trackpads are still something Apple does very well, maybe better than anyone else.

I can't stand the current MBP trackpad. It's too big and too easy to accidentally touch.

This thread is a perfect example as to why Apple will never please everyone.
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