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Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by mattigames »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #35
scarface74 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite the outspoken geeks that hate the Touch Bar, Mac revenue are their highest ever. The majority of people don’t care.

I think you're right. In Europe macs are not used as tools for professionals, but as toys for rich kids. You never see macbooks in any company unless they are an Apple shop but if you go in the old town center, in the most hipster cafes, you only see youths with macs.

Yeah most people use it for browsing the web, syncing their iPhones and not much else; for most is a luxury item used as another success symbol, like driving a BMW or wearing Gucci belts.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by Marsymars »

galo_sengen wrote: post #8

I hope they release a fanless version of the Air to make up for the lack of the Macbook. Are there any other fanless laptops on the market?

Yes, but nothing without compromises. (e.g. AFAIK there doesn't exist a = 12" screen device with an Amber Lake CPU)

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by elamje »

geerlingguy wrote: post #5
areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

If you want to enjoy the touchbar you have to have https://pock.dev which is free

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by vbezhenar »

galo_sengen wrote: post #8

I hope they release a fanless version of the Air to make up for the lack of the Macbook. Are there any other fanless laptops on the market?

There's no point to aim on fanless laptop. There are plenty of laptops which won't turn on fan unless absolutely necessary, you should aim for those laptops, because if you need that extra performance, you'll have it and if you don't need it, you will have silent device.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by jessewmc »

chrischen wrote: post #11
geerlingguy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

I'm certain people who are OK with the touch bar don't care about it as much as the people who hate it, but I for one prefer that they are iteratively innovating on the keyboard for macs. I'd rather they do that than make a thick brick of a laptop with a row of mostly useless function keys that a vocal minority has been harping for.

Except now we have only one MacBook Pro choice: one with a more expensive part that uses more battery and is another possible failure point. It’s a net negative for anyone who is even neutral to it, never mind someone who uses say the physical escape key on a regular basis.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by eanzenberg »

hanniabu wrote: post #45
wwweston wrote: post #38

Macbook Pro "improvements" over the last 3-7 years: * No more matte display * RAM soldered to the board * SSD soldered in * remove all ports except USB-C * make keyboard worse * remove function keys, replace with touch surface that's redundant at best But it's very thin! And even thinner was the recent Macbook, and if the law of "diminishing returns" matters as little as the usual defenses of all the above tradeoffs…

I like my 2013 MBP because the newer thin laptops I just feel like I'm going to break them.

I like my 2019 MBP because it's thin, has a better display, has a great trackpad, decent keyboard, and a touchbar that I use fairly frequently for auto-complete.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by bgeeek »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #35
scarface74 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite the outspoken geeks that hate the Touch Bar, Mac revenue are their highest ever. The majority of people don’t care.

I think you're right. In Europe macs are not used as tools for professionals, but as toys for rich kids. You never see macbooks in any company unless they are an Apple shop but if you go in the old town center, in the most hipster cafes, you only see youths with macs.

That is utter nonsense. The university research group that I worked in replaced Dell Linux-based laptops for Macbooks. Hardly toys for rich kids.
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