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Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by yfzhou »

geerlingguy wrote: post #5
areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

There is hope that they are clearing up inventory of the old chassis & touch bars before they ditch them all together for a redesign with scissor keyboard at the end of this year though. A redesign is certain at this point, we just don't know when.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by scarface74 »

geerlingguy wrote: post #5
areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

Despite the outspoken geeks that hate the Touch Bar, Mac revenue are their highest ever. The majority of people don’t care.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by [deleted] »

chrischen wrote: post #11
geerlingguy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

I'm certain people who are OK with the touch bar don't care about it as much as the people who hate it, but I for one prefer that they are iteratively innovating on the keyboard for macs. I'd rather they do that than make a thick brick of a laptop with a row of mostly useless function keys that a vocal minority has been harping for.

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Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by scarface74 »

Despegar wrote: post #13
areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

>That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. It's absurd that people keep suggesting this when it was a tactical move by a company near bankruptcy, had problems with too much inventory, and lots of models…

To prevent having to price match and to make it hard for consumers to compare products, a lot of companies have different models for different retailers - Apple did this before SJ came back.

You still see this with products like mattresses.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by scarface74 »

IgorPartola wrote: post #17

Why does choosing an Apple product always require a degree in Apple marketing and design? I generally like their products but you need to do so much research about everything from the weird ass product names (does Air even mean anything anymore?), to where exactly in the product cycle each product is. Am I about to buy something that will be upgraded in a week?

Have you been on any PC makers websites lately?

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by mises »

geerlingguy wrote: post #5
areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

Just sell it as a dongle. Lord knows they've done that with enough other things. For those who actually use it, it doesn't need to positioned just above the numbers.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by __d »

rolltiide wrote: post #9

I’m almost ready to stop hating on the donglebook now that all my devices use wireless connectivity Even my hardware wallet is bluetooth and I’ll tolerate that Inconclusive on my DSLR-form factor cameras, but I plan to axe them for the iphone’s camera in a year or two as well, for how I use them

So when Apple releases their new Apple Display Air with 60GHz wireless Thunderbolt4, and the new MacBooks finally get wireless charging, we’ll reach the nirvana of a totally port-less device.

With some more work on the keyboard, it could even end up being totally coffee-proof!

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by ggm »

rolltiide wrote: post #9

I’m almost ready to stop hating on the donglebook now that all my devices use wireless connectivity Even my hardware wallet is bluetooth and I’ll tolerate that Inconclusive on my DSLR-form factor cameras, but I plan to axe them for the iphone’s camera in a year or two as well, for how I use them

Eye-FI failed. which annoyed me. There are others. I often read "oh how quaint: you have a camera with no wifi" but I do like my fuji X-20, and it is pre-wifi, and so I need a WiFi enabled SD card solution.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Post by arcticbull »

mises wrote: post #27
geerlingguy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

Just sell it as a dongle. Lord knows they've done that with enough other things. For those who actually use it, it doesn't need to positioned just above the numbers.

Could easily be placed at the top of a magic trackpad, even if it's two rows or something. IMO it's a much more natural fit that way and could be easily added onto any machine for the, I want to say 10, people who find it useful. Or, get this, above the row of function keys on a magic keyboard.
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