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Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

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Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#11

Post by chrischen »

geerlingguy wrote: post #5
areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

I'm certain people who are OK with the touch bar don't care about it as much as the people who hate it, but I for one prefer that they are iteratively innovating on the keyboard for macs. I'd rather they do that than make a thick brick of a laptop with a row of mostly useless function keys that a vocal minority has been harping for.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#12

Post by boyter »

galo_sengen wrote: post #8

I hope they release a fanless version of the Air to make up for the lack of the Macbook. Are there any other fanless laptops on the market?

Surface Book 2 13" has no fan on the CPU. The GPU has one, and the larger 15" has a CPU fan as well, but the 13" is dead silent otherwise. Although the charger can exhibit some coil whine at times which is annoying.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#13

Post by Despegar »

areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

>That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices.

It's absurd that people keep suggesting this when it was a tactical move by a company near bankruptcy, had problems with too much inventory, and lots of models of computers that weren't differentiated.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#14

Post by tomca32 »

geerlingguy wrote: post #5
areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

Yeah, the touch bar is quite a turn off for me too. That and the crappy keyboard made me always use the laptop in clamshell mode, which ironically I ended up liking quite a bit.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#15

Post by gambiting »

galo_sengen wrote: post #8

I hope they release a fanless version of the Air to make up for the lack of the Macbook. Are there any other fanless laptops on the market?

The current Air might as well be fanless. The fan is nowhere near the heatsink on the CPU, once it finally kicks in it only pushes the air through the case, its impact on the CPU temperatures is minimal.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#16

Post by markdown »

tomca32 wrote: post #14
geerlingguy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

Yeah, the touch bar is quite a turn off for me too. That and the crappy keyboard made me always use the laptop in clamshell mode, which ironically I ended up liking quite a bit.

What's clamshell mode?

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#17

Post by IgorPartola »

Why does choosing an Apple product always require a degree in Apple marketing and design? I generally like their products but you need to do so much research about everything from the weird ass product names (does Air even mean anything anymore?), to where exactly in the product cycle each product is. Am I about to buy something that will be upgraded in a week?

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#18

Post by [deleted] »

tomca32 wrote: post #14
geerlingguy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if the whole post or only part is /s, but IMO they need to have the courage to drop the Touch Bar. Everything else I can live with, but now there’s literally no MacBook Pro I will buy. I have the 2016 Function Key model, and maybe my next upgrade will be to a 2015 Pro... or to a non-Apple laptop (sigh).

Yeah, the touch bar is quite a turn off for me too. That and the crappy keyboard made me always use the laptop in clamshell mode, which ironically I ended up liking quite a bit.

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Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#19

Post by klodolph »

Despegar wrote: post #13
areoform wrote: post #2

That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. I am positively encouraged that Apple has grown to the point where they took feedback critically and have returned to a more Jobs-ian way of operating. As they…

>That's Courage. For real this time, one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple was that he slashed the product line and killed off a ton of things so that the company could focus on what truly mattered; building great computing devices. It's absurd that people keep suggesting this when it was a tactical move by a company near bankruptcy, had problems with too much inventory, and lots of models…

We see it as an obvious move in retrospect but this goes completely counter to the way most consumer electronics businesses are run then and now. It takes courage because various internal stakeholders, shareholders, and clients demand feature lists and cling to the hope that various markets will explode. Just take a look at the Dell or HP websites and browse for a minute or two.

Re: Apple Updates Air, Pro Laptops, Kills Off the MacBook

#20

Post by onemoresoop »

markdown wrote: post #16
tomca32 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the touch bar is quite a turn off for me too. That and the crappy keyboard made me always use the laptop in clamshell mode, which ironically I ended up liking quite a bit.

What's clamshell mode?

clamshell mode = with the lid closed
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