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BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

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Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

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post #18

Unrelated note: >"Your browser isn't supported This browser won't play nicely with some features on this site. For the best experience, update your browser to the latest version, or switch to another browser." What on earth is that supposed to mean? Update to what browser? (Using Firefox on Android, latest version)

Usually that means “use the IE6 of our times, aka Chrome”.

Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

#22
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoom responded to this point [1]: > This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join m…

Wow that is really damning, trashing user security in trade to remove a single click that makes it clear as to what is happening. This totally breaks Apple's Developer Terms right?

> Wow that is really damning, trashing user security in trade to remove a single click

As someone who has had to develop and maintain a similar web-to-desktop bridge I can tell you that this one issue was responsible for around 90% of my company’s total support requests, despite only being a small feature in a optional addon in one of our main products.

For businesses just trying to keep their customers happy, this particular one click is a very real problem.

I can absolutely symphetize with people trying to come up with workarounds.

Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

#23

Why is this news? A lot of desktop applications do this. The Spotify client used to do it to enable play/pause controls from any webpage. Dropbox also definitely used the same method for single sign on, maybe still does, I don't use it anymore.

You’ve used past tense in all your examples. Is it still true? As Apple has moved more towards a system with GateKeeper where apps must operate in a sandbox, this behavior seems less acceptable in 2019. I don’t want apps having complete access to my home directory because they absolutely do not need it to function.

I like that when I remove an app installed via App Store on Mac, I know it’s actually gone. It seems like this was part of the thing that people couldn’t stand about Windows — spyware coming along for the ride that is not removed when you delete the main app.

Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

#24
post #12

> It also prevents the user from making a wrong decision on a browser dialog which might permanently lock them out of launching meetings. > This allows us to offer a new installation or launch the existing app based on the user's machine. These all sound like problems that can be solved by fixing the interface itself and by polling for a desktop client connection.

However, the developers of this software have no way to force browser developers to “fix their interface.” So they make a workaround instead.

Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoom responded to this point [1]: > This is a workaround to a change introduced in Safari 12 that requires a user to confirm that they want to start the Zoom client prior to joining every meeting. The local web server enables users to avoid this extra click before joining every meeting. We feel that this is a legitimate solution to a poor user experience problem, enabling our users to have faster, one-click-to-join m…

Move fast, break security

GAAS—garbage as a service

99% of software world these days fits this description, sadly.

Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

#26

Why is this news? A lot of desktop applications do this. The Spotify client used to do it to enable play/pause controls from any webpage. Dropbox also definitely used the same method for single sign on, maybe still does, I don't use it anymore.

You’ve used past tense in all your examples. Is it still true? As Apple has moved more towards a system with GateKeeper where apps must operate in a sandbox, this behavior seems less acceptable in 2019. I don’t want apps having complete access to my home directory because they absolutely do not need it to function. I like that when I remove an app installed via App Store on Mac, I know it’s actually gone. It seems li…

Use the App Store and the preference setting to only allow App Store apps if you want that behavior.

Macs are general purpose computers and it would be absolutely inappropriate for Apple to try to prevent users from running software on them.

Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow that is really damning, trashing user security in trade to remove a single click that makes it clear as to what is happening. This totally breaks Apple's Developer Terms right?

There are no “developer terms” that developers have to abide by for the Mac.

I'm fairly certain you have to agree to some to join the Apple Developer Program, which is (sort-of) required if you want people to be able to run your app.

Re: BlueJeans also runs a webserver when installed on macOS

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Why is this site completely unusable with cookies disabled? All I see is this: Technical Stuff To view this site, enable cookies in your browser.

Copy link.

Command-shift-N to open a new private browsing link.

Paste. Return.

Idiots. Why is all that necessary? The page should work first time, and gracefully degrade if you won't accept their cookies.

(To clarify, I am suggesting that making an FAQ page that won't display static text without cookies enabled is idiotic. I am not saying that the person I'm replying to is an idiot, or that people who won't grant cookies to random web pages are idiots. Just the opposite.)

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