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C. Hoare and Co., a British banking dynasty in business for more than 300 years

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post #18

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There are many existing banks that cater to rich people.

Name one bank that the average person on the street recognizes as an exclusive bank that only rich people can afford to use, like they do with Ferarri or Rolls Royce.

Ferrari and Rolls Royce are marketed for conspicuous consumption. The service is called private banking for a reason.

Re: C. Hoare and Co., a British banking dynasty in business for more than 300 years

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many existing banks that cater to rich people.

Name one bank that the average person on the street recognizes as an exclusive bank that only rich people can afford to use, like they do with Ferarri or Rolls Royce.

Coutts.

Re: C. Hoare and Co., a British banking dynasty in business for more than 300 years

#43
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many existing banks that cater to rich people.

Name one bank that the average person on the street recognizes as an exclusive bank that only rich people can afford to use, like they do with Ferarri or Rolls Royce.

J.P. Morgan Private Bank, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs Private Bank. There are plenty of others. All of these have well-known brands and aren't accessible to the average person.

J.P. Morgan's private bank even issues the "Reserve Card", which is identical to the Chase Sapphire Reserve, except that it is made out of palladium to show off to anyone who cares and it has a higher annual fee.

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#45
post #19

The article keeps saying their advantage is their ability to "find solutions other banks can't". I don't know what that means. Exotic loan terms? Collateralizing difficult-to-value assets?

I'd imagine for a client, most of the value of this bank is access to what I can only imagine to be the most fantastically exotic network it sits at the centre of

As a person that is definitely not part of the global one percent, my imagination ran to something like the Eyes Wide Shut orgy scene.

Fidelio.

Re: C. Hoare and Co., a British banking dynasty in business for more than 300 years

#46

The article keeps saying their advantage is their ability to "find solutions other banks can't". I don't know what that means. Exotic loan terms? Collateralizing difficult-to-value assets?

So banking is a complex mess of years and years of regulation that seem to change when the government does or there is an event. An example for me personally was trying to buy a house after the crash. (This bit is simplified vs the details of rules). They changed the loan laws to put incoming as the key limit on what you could write a loan against. I had made a nice chuck of money on my last startup and was very lucky enough to be in the position to be able to write a check for the house. That however would make no sense. The interest rates where very low and having a mortgage has a tax benefit. The issue was that I had moved to another startup and traded salary for stock, so my income was to low to meet the requires for the home loan (they ignore the fact that my net holdings could cover the house 8x). No major bank could write the loan. However I was able to find a private bank that because of their structure and the fact that they carried the paper (did not sell the loan on) where able to write the loan no issues. I just structured stock sales each month to cover the mortgage, ignoring my income (which was a number picked to cover the family expenses less the housing cost). I was only able to set this all up because it was a private bank that looked at the full picture. That’s the key value of a bank like this.

Re: C. Hoare and Co., a British banking dynasty in business for more than 300 years

#47
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name one bank that the average person on the street recognizes as an exclusive bank that only rich people can afford to use, like they do with Ferarri or Rolls Royce.

I worked with a start-up that focused on providing software for private family offices. These are for UHNW people who have more than 100 million USD. They do not want to brag that they go to the Bentley of banks. They want to keep it as private as possible. Typically UHNW has a private family office, something between a concierge and philanthropy and a private investment organization, which maintain relationships wit…

What kinds of software did you provide to these private family offices?

Re: C. Hoare and Co., a British banking dynasty in business for more than 300 years

#48

The article keeps saying their advantage is their ability to "find solutions other banks can't". I don't know what that means. Exotic loan terms? Collateralizing difficult-to-value assets?

So banking is a complex mess of years and years of regulation that seem to change when the government does or there is an event. An example for me personally was trying to buy a house after the crash. (This bit is simplified vs the details of rules). They changed the loan laws to put incoming as the key limit on what you could write a loan against. I had made a nice chuck of money on my last startup and was very luck…

^ very true. Larger banks also do this, but you need someone high up the totem pole to connect with. Most lower level employees cannot approve these things and just input things into the system (which has a risk model that spits out a yes/no answer).

Re: C. Hoare and Co., a British banking dynasty in business for more than 300 years

#49
post #15

I wonder if legendary computer scientist Tony Hoare (C. A. R. Hoare) was part of the family, especially given his three given names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hoare

> He developed the sorting algorithm quicksort in 1959/1960. He also developed Hoare logic for verifying program correctness, and the formal language communicating sequential processes (CSP) to specify the interactions of concurrent processes (including the dining philosophers problem) and the inspiration for the occam programming language.

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