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Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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You seem to think you know better than the parent commenter what their experience was, despite the fact that they were there and you were not. Interestingly, what you imply is a more negative view of the experience rather than a more positive, which may make one think you hold a prejudiced view of the French specifically for some unstated reason.

Have you been abroad? and compared your experiences to France? Speaking broken Czech in Prague gets smiles, encouragement and comments about Slavic language similarities. Doing the same in France results in evil eye and being treated as an asshole.

I have, in multiple countries, including France. My French is far from perfect, but I don’t recall being insulted or derided for my attempts to use it, even in Paris which tends to be the epicenter of these experiences for others from what I hear.

I do wonder if this is a cultural difference as another fellow commenter mentioned - maybe I was corrected and did not take it as an insult (and don’t even recall it), because I am not originally English or American.

Anyway, my point was that you were propagating a negative stereotype, and not based on your own experience even. The world has enough negativity already... It’s not nice.

Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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You seem to think you know better than the parent commenter what their experience was, despite the fact that they were there and you were not. Interestingly, what you imply is a more negative view of the experience rather than a more positive, which may make one think you hold a prejudiced view of the French specifically for some unstated reason.

I've never been to France but I've heard this stereotype many, many times elsewhere online: that the French don't want foreigners speaking French even if their French skills are good, because they don't like to hear even the slightest imperfection in pronunciation or usage, seeing it as some sort of defilement of their language. The stereotype is especially pronounced for Parisians, and appears to only exist for Euro…

> they don't like to hear even the slightest imperfection in pronunciation or usage, seeing it as some sort of defilement of their language.

As a native French speaker, this strikes me as odd, since it is typically a foreign thing to consider French as the epitome of spoken languages, that makes most French people I know scratch their heads uncomfortably. I interact with foreigners everyday, most of the time in English. Most of them are PhD students that spend at least three years in France, and usually acquire some French along the way, to varying degrees of proficiency (from greetings to highly technical/rhetorical conversations)

I know some of them that handle it well enough for basic conversations, and I will usually go along with them until it becomes difficult for either party to understand the other.

Actually, I might be a bit too eager to switch back to English as I have a stereotypical view of their possible interactions with other French people, who might not "excel" at English. Usually, I will not correct them on a word unless it was the root cause for a misunderstanding, or they asked me to tell them when they do a mistake. I am also happy to discuss grammar and etymology topics, as I am usually curious about other languages as well. I do not want to keep them from learning French, nor force them to speak it, so I'll play along what I guessed their intentions were, based on our previous interactions.

On the other hand, we are taught French at school with very rigid rules, which are tweaked from time to time (by the "Académie Française"). This helps with uniformization, but could be argued either way. And finally, it might be a bit elitist of me, but a lot of French people struggle with proper writing (French is much harder to write than it is to read or speak), which I think looks very unprofessional and neglected. Quite a lot of people will frown on this (at least those that make fewer mistakes), though foreigners usually get a free pass (from myself at least, not quite sure about others).

I hope that clears things up a bit. I find it a very interesting topic, as are the issues of social integration and forming small cliques.

Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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given the downvotes I just got, the nationalism on HN lately, and the narcissism in US-centric discourse in general, no, I do not wish to explain or expand on this it is to the US-centric benefit that I should mention it, or expend the energy to explain myself, not the other way around

Why did you even add your cryptic two cents on this forum if you refuse to explain what you even meant? How is that not just pure, masturbatory noise? Holding your point hostage because you got a downvote is especially ridiculous.

Please don't cross into being personally aggressive no matter how annoying another comment is or feels.

Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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Can you expand and explain what you mean?

given the downvotes I just got, the nationalism on HN lately, and the narcissism in US-centric discourse in general, no, I do not wish to explain or expand on this it is to the US-centric benefit that I should mention it, or expend the energy to explain myself, not the other way around

I think I partly recognize the feeling and the situation you're alluding to, but still: if you're not willing to post substantive information, it's best not to comment. Posting a vague and provocative allusion and then refusing to answer normal requests for clarification doesn't help the discussion here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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Lol. How about pretty much everywhere in Asia? China? Singapore? Korea? The "norm" is to live at home until you get married, when you use all the money you saved living rent-free at home to put down a hefty deposit on a house. I know actual millionaires who still live with their parents! Given the difficulty of affording a deposit for new home buyers who have been renting since 18 (like me - Aussie here), I can see t…

yeah, on second thought, you're right regarding Asia.... to a degree. I worked in Singapore for a while and a lot of people my age didn't live at home, and a few did. Singapore was a bit different though, it's bloody expensive there. In the Philippines I found that depending where you were from, depended on whether you left home as early as possible for better opportunities. Never heard of the dorms thing though. My…

The reason people buy expensive houses in expensive areas is because of enhanced social networking and housing market stability. Strong communities tend to fare better in economic downturns. Moving to the countryside increases the probability of social isolation. This has far reaching consequences on mental and physical health.

Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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In Finland the Erasmus/foreign exchange students of universities also tend to hang out among themselves and the native Finns don't really care about them. One thing I've heard is that the Finns consider many of the exchange students to be a bit juvenile since in their home countries people often live with parents until their 30s. Whereas most Finnish students move out and become fully independent by age 20.

where on earth is it the norm to be living with your parents until you're in your 30s? Kiwi here, a lot of us move out and go flatting at the first possible chance we get - which is right after high school/first year of uni.

Places where real estate isn't cheap essentially. More common in old world than colonies.

Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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Can you expand and explain what you mean?

given the downvotes I just got, the nationalism on HN lately, and the narcissism in US-centric discourse in general, no, I do not wish to explain or expand on this it is to the US-centric benefit that I should mention it, or expend the energy to explain myself, not the other way around

That sounds like the "not my job to educate you" mentality.

If they are the one complaining about something yes it is their job to educate from basic communication alone. No matter how frustrating it may be forcing others into playing a game of Mao is not reasonable.

Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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Still we can agree on the fact a millionaire living at hotel mom sounds outrageous.

Why is it outrageous ?

It's sounds outrageous to ears that value individualism and "independence" over community and family ties. Money is typically an enabler for independence in such societies, so a millionaire who doesn't use their money to acquire "independence" from their mom seems like an oddity.

Re: Why Is There So Much Saudi Money in American Universities?

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Is there an alternate article link without paywall?

Bittercynic meantioned in another comment on a different post the following method. “Fwiw adding 0.0.0.0 samizdat-graph to your /etc/hosts fixes this for me”

Hmm, interesting GQL endpoint name choice by NYT devs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat
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