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Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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post #91

People should take this list with a serious health warning. Firstly, a lot of this is just 'internet sleuth'ing and innuendo. Plenty of companies want to operate multiple services to be able to use different marketing and differentiation strategies. Secondly, the fact that the site is funded by affiliate links to a coupole of the big VPN services should really ring alarm bells. I trust we all learned from the Mattres…

This is why I self host algo vpn. I seriously doubt my hosting provider would jeopardize their business by snooping on/messing with a vpn given the breach of trust would cause large customers to ditch them.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Why would I need a VPN for browsing if all my traffic is https and I use HTTPS DNS?

Your ISP could still see the servers you connect to and how much data is transferred, they don't need to look in any packets to know you browse YouTube or PornHub, and when, and for how long.

But its also about hiding your identity from the sites you visit (dependent on how well your browser protects your privacy).

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe "browser" was too specific. Replace that with an "organization" and that's Mozilla. They make firefox, but they're more than just an application, they're a group of applications developers that are pro privacy.

So what organization with that kind of credibility is offering a free vpn? If Mozilla did, it probably would get the kind of attention and focus you’re suggesting. I just don’t see a lot of companies with a similar vision as Mozilla that are successful.

It's coming!

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/10/18660344/firefox-subscrip...

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Now you just need to figure out which one owns which and then chain them cross vendor, and hope that "he's connecting to a chinese spy vpn" doesn't put you on any list ;)

Most people on HN are probably on several lists. If I mention "The Anarchist Cookbook" then I imagine every username on this page will be added to a GCHQ list, I'll probably have my internet traffic mined to establish if I downloaded it (which they arrest people for in the UK -- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-41802493 ). Presumably they have my online purchase history that relates to reagents, etc.. I…

I don't believe they'll bother putting you on a list for anarchist cb. So many of the recipes have been modified so that you'll blow yourself up that they'll just let nature run its course... /s

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

#147
post #76

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Interesting. Given that scraping Amazon is illegal, shouldn't these companies pinpointed and sued?

It's not illegal, it's against their TOS, bug difference. In any case, if there's money to be made, you'll find even more reputable entities will operate at the margins of ethics and legality. In any case, probably more cost effective to come up with a technical solution rather than suing every pop up scraper of Amazon. Or just sue the VPN provider itself?

I was talking about the VPN provider of course.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

#150
post #39

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You trust Tor exit nodes over vpn providers?

Is there any need to trust Tor exit nodes at all?

If you block non-tls traffic period and you never click through on invalid cert sites the only concern is 0day exploits. As much as https is popupar there is still alot of plain http sites and sites that upgrade to https after the first request. Data collection and running JS in your browser aside,there are clever tricks used to track and possibly deanonymize youand obviously they are hostile when it comes to exploutation.

At least VPN providers need your money and their reputation and you can chain them for tor like privacy without the poor performance and anonymity.

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