Tons of former NSA persons work in the US private sector,especially within infosec.
Did someone just said Battelle Memorial Institute?
Huawei staff CVs reveal alleged links to Chinese intelligence agencies
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#42So how long do you think he'll last until he magically disappears?
Who? You mean Author working for American Literary Historical Society in New York City?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
What if the "We" is 95% of the world that is not the USA? It's cute that US citizens have some spying issues and some targeted election interference issues but the sympathy is very limited because in many parts of the world they were dealing with this since ever and the USA was the culprit. I think we are approaching a time in history where we are going to actually choose if we are human resources that are to be spie…
I'm from one of the poorest countries on the planet, which is neither politically aligned with the US nor the Chinese, because it isn't geopolitically important enough. Though to be entirely honest, it's aligned with whoever throws money at it. I'm wary of the economic moves the Chinese are making in my part of the world, because they come attached with fat strings, which most people are willing to ignore for said ec…
Our access and use of resources have changed dramatically. It's no longer true that to have few people living like the kings we need to have a large number of people exploited. Well, maybe we are not exactly there yet but we have come such a long way that we have an incredibly high count of people living very good lives.
Many fights of the political elites are more and more about their personal egos than biological or natural necessities of the population they are responsible for.
Sure, there are still issues and global risks that may undo our progress but overall we are approaching a future where we are no longer depended on large political institutions but since we have these in place they will continue doing their thing and the risks will be due to fighting between those institutions.
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#44Tons of former NSA persons work in the US private sector,especially within infosec.
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#45Also, there are large numbers of people in companies like huawei and cisco working on clandestine eavesdropping and "interception" is a public feature of the products. These people have to have close ties with users of the features.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do we know that "former" is not just on paperwork? When I hear the arguments against China and their tech companies, I don't have a problem believing them, however I do not expect anything less from the USA. Remember Snowden? I'm simply assuming that Facebook, Google, Apple, Cisco or any other US tech company are tapped by the US 3 letter agencies. There were some reveleations on that(PRISMA) but it's probably ju…
I think the big difference is that US companies can meaningfully resist the US government if they choose to, and they often do. Chinese companies cannot.
The way that Qwest CEO Joseph Nacchio so meaningfully resisted the government that he was convicted of insider trading for telling people his company would be successful when it actually relied on a government contract that was pulled in retaliation, which he couldn't use as a defense in court because of national security concerns? For which he served four years in prison, and Qwest no longer exists? That sort of meaningfully resist?
The message to me from that case is clear—if the US government tells you to jump, you answer, how high.
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#47It seems that many of the commenters here forgot about the arrest of Huawei Poland's sales director suspected of spying: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46851777
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#48Tons of former NSA persons work in the US private sector,especially within infosec.
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The thing about whataboutism is that it was correct. It was only a logical fallacy in the eyes of US jingoists who didn't want to admit that, actually, the US had tons of human rights violations and the US vs. USSR conflict was not a conflict of good vs. evil.
When both A and B do a thing X, there are two potential logically sound conclusions: either that X is bad and both A and B are in the wrong, or that it's not and neither is. It is unsound to say that A doing X is a problem but B doing X is merely a rhetorical accusation that requires no response.
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#49A lot of people in this thread are complaining that the US does this to but does anyone seriously believe that having Huawei tech embedded in American infrastructure is a good idea?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do we know that "former" is not just on paperwork? When I hear the arguments against China and their tech companies, I don't have a problem believing them, however I do not expect anything less from the USA. Remember Snowden? I'm simply assuming that Facebook, Google, Apple, Cisco or any other US tech company are tapped by the US 3 letter agencies. There were some reveleations on that(PRISMA) but it's probably ju…
I think the big difference is that US companies can meaningfully resist the US government if they choose to, and they often do. Chinese companies cannot.
>US companies can meaningfully resist the US government
This ideation is moot if there are members of the US government on staff, committed to 'finishing the patriotic mission' of their spook-agency masters.