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How much free time do you have?

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Re: How much free time do you have?

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what do you do with your free time?

Enjoying life my friend. Wife and kids, they are there to make your life fulfilled, not to be a nuisance or chores, as the tool had one of the fields - I put there 0, I don't have any chores to do in my life.

I like your mindset.

Re: How much free time do you have?

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post #61

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i got similar numbers and thought, wow, 16 hours is actually quite a lot of time. that's two work days worth. seriously how much time do you spend on your hobbies? i have several casual hobbies that only take a few hours a week each. if i'd spend 2 hours each day on a hobby i'd call that intensive and i'd think that spending that much time is unusual unless it's maybe a music instrument you are learning.

another way to look at it is that 2 days of free time is 2/5th of your worktime. that's almost half a job worth. if you spend 5 years in a job, then that's 2 years worth of free time. imagine what you can do with all of that.

Build a burnout and depression cause you lack downtime.

18 hours per week for showering, shopping, cleaning, catching up with friends, eating, cooking and reading is not that extraordinary much.

Re: How much free time do you have?

#83
61.5 pw free. Work for myself, no commute, kids are 14 and 11 so pretty self sufficient. Run rather than gym (saves travel and fannying about time), don't sleep massive amounts...

The default 7 hours a week "grooming"? Wtf?

I'm obviously scruffy and unclean, too.

Re: How much free time do you have?

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post #77

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another way to look at it is that 2 days of free time is 2/5th of your worktime. that's almost half a job worth. if you spend 5 years in a job, then that's 2 years worth of free time. imagine what you can do with all of that.

Build a burnout and depression cause you lack downtime. 18 hours per week for showering, shopping, cleaning, catching up with friends, eating, cooking and reading is not that extraordinary much.

oh yes, burnout and depression, also procrastination can really eat up your time. and worst of all, you don't really know where the time is going. it just disappears.

Re: How much free time do you have?

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post #66

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Why do you have to "get something extraordinary done" on your time off? You don't have to be productive any waking moment.

If you're not productive on your four-day weekends, and if you think your job isn't worth anything in the ultimate sense, you will wake up one day and be 79 without having done much of anything.

Enjoying 79 stress-free years sounds better than having things to brag about on your gravestone.

Re: How much free time do you have?

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post #66

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Why do you have to "get something extraordinary done" on your time off? You don't have to be productive any waking moment.

If you're not productive on your four-day weekends, and if you think your job isn't worth anything in the ultimate sense, you will wake up one day and be 79 without having done much of anything.

This. If you feel your dayjob is a pointless waste of effort, then the after-work time is all you have to do anything meaningful with your life. And I don't know if it's reality, or just artifact of society talking more about it at scale, but it seems to me that increasing amount of jobs is pointless, with neutral to net-negative impact on society. Including, or maybe especially in, our industry.

Re: How much free time do you have?

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If you're not productive on your four-day weekends, and if you think your job isn't worth anything in the ultimate sense, you will wake up one day and be 79 without having done much of anything.

Enjoying 79 stress-free years sounds better than having things to brag about on your gravestone.

Stress is orthogonal here.

Many humans[0] naturally want to create, build and improve things around them. A typical job is a nearly insurmountable obstacle to that, especially if fruits of the labour only ever manifest as paycheck - hence the desire to do that in whatever free time that's left.

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[0] - I'd argue, all.

Re: How much free time do you have?

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what is "free time"? I consider doing most of those things on my "free time". When I go excercise, I have no obligation do to so, I do it on my "free time". If I had kid, I'd consider spending time with them as "free time with my kids". I dont like this pessimistic perception of time, and it's not mine. The only non free time I have, is the one I "owe" to my employer. And this time, I freely give it to him, and If I…

> If I had kid, I'd consider spending time with them as "free time with my kids" It's really not, though. Before parenthood I had all these romantic 'Swallows and Amazons' ideas about lazy summer days on riverbanks and meadows. In reality time with young kids is about mundane things like making meals, doing homework, playing what they want to play, trying to coax them to help with chores that you need to get done, fi…

> In reality time with young kids is about mundane things like making meals, doing homework, playing what they want to play, trying to coax them to help with chores that you need to get done, finding craft activities to deflect them from screen-time etc etc

There is little evidence that any of those helps your kid, you do it because you want to not because it is needed.

Re: How much free time do you have?

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post #66

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Why do you have to "get something extraordinary done" on your time off? You don't have to be productive any waking moment.

If you're not productive on your four-day weekends, and if you think your job isn't worth anything in the ultimate sense, you will wake up one day and be 79 without having done much of anything.

Your accomplishments don't mean anything in the ultimate sense anyway. Nothing is permanent. The universe will eventually cook itself to death.

When it's your turn to go, how you feel about the matter will make no difference. So I say enjoy the 4 days off.

Re: How much free time do you have?

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I’m in the middle of a four day weekend. I’ll probably get absolutely nothing extraordinary done in it. Despite there being plenty of things I could be doing. The 40 hour work week is tyrannical.

> The 40 hour work week is tyrannical. If you are stating this seriously, I often wonder why there isn’t a great movement toward a reduction in working days/hours in the modern workplace. It’s kind of mind boggling to me why we have to trade most of our waking hours for the majority of the prime of our life to make a living wage. Modern society should be solving for this.

> I often wonder why there isn’t a great movement toward a reduction in working days/hours in the modern workplace.

There are voices saying that. You can find some on almost every HN thread about work. This is a tricky topic, though, because our society has a deeply ingrained sense of deriving one's self-worth and status from the job they perform. A sentiment that was once critical to our survival - now, arguably, less so.

> Modern society should be solving for this.

There are attempts. 4-hour workweek. People (like myself) switching to remote work to reclaim time spent commuting. Individuals seeking FU money. Proposals of UBI. Regulations around paid vacations and parental leave. It's messy and slow-going, and things probably won't change until there is a cultural shift in our relationship with work we do.

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