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The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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> What's even more weird is all abrahamic religions mention olive in their books. Not weird at all. After all they all originate roughly from the same region.

Right, it would be weird if they mentioned potatoes or tomatoes in their texts.

Joseph Smith would like to have a word with you...

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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> Thank goodness we figured out how to press olives into oil, because eating them raw is not a pleasant option. We eat olives raw (and cured etc) for several millennia in my side of the woods, and its a totally pleasant option -- and traditional part of Italian, Greek, etc cuisines... Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California).…

> Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California). There's a particular kind of processed olive sold in the US as "black olives" which I think this is referring to. If you haven't had one, imagine... imagine that you need to eat an olive, but you hate olives and everything about them, so you invent something that's the shape of an o…

My kids love black olives, but you're right. They have little taste, more texture then anything else.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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> Thank goodness we figured out how to press olives into oil, because eating them raw is not a pleasant option. We eat olives raw (and cured etc) for several millennia in my side of the woods, and its a totally pleasant option -- and traditional part of Italian, Greek, etc cuisines... Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California).…

> Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California). There's a particular kind of processed olive sold in the US as "black olives" which I think this is referring to. If you haven't had one, imagine... imagine that you need to eat an olive, but you hate olives and everything about them, so you invent something that's the shape of an o…

They're good on pizza.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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You've plucked an olive from a tree and eaten it? Try it sometime and you'll see... The olives eaten in Italian and Greek cuisines are all processed using one of the methods described in the article to remove the extremely bitter compound oleuropein.

> You've plucked an olive from a tree and eaten it? Try it sometime and you'll see... More often than you'll think. But we usually cut them open, and treat them (is this called "curing"?) in water, salt, and oil. But the article starts with "Thank goodness we figured out how to press olives into oil, because eating them raw is not a pleasant option" which is simply not true, except if raw here is meant like "exactly…

Raw: being in or nearly in the natural state : not processed or purified.

So, cutting and treating them with water, salt, and oil is not raw....

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

Are you talking of industrial orange juice? I've never heard squeezed oranges to be considered unhealthy.

Pretty much all sweet fruit juice is not healthy* because of the sugar content.

The evidence is piling up that sugar is responsible for a great deal of health issues in the modern world.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

Are you talking of industrial orange juice? I've never heard squeezed oranges to be considered unhealthy.

If you take a fresh orange, squeeze it and drink/eat ALL of the result, then that's fairly healthy. You're balancing out the fructose with lots of fiber which are supposed to help slow the absorption of that sugar. Also by consuming it right away, the other nutrients don't have time to oxidate.

Orange juice as sold in stores has a lot less pulp (even the "high pulp" has less than what you'd get from an orange. It is also pasteurized, and the taste is harmonized by adding various types of extracts of oranges—though since those extracts came from oranges, they are allowed to call the result 100% orange juice, which I find rather misleading.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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These are very particular canned olives in the US that have a different taste. Twenty or thirty years ago they were the only black olives you could get here. They are still available, but now you can easily get real tree-ripened black olives as well.

yeah- kinda the olive version of the maraschino cherry

That analogy shouldn't work but does.

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> Thank goodness we figured out how to press olives into oil, because eating them raw is not a pleasant option. We eat olives raw (and cured etc) for several millennia in my side of the woods, and its a totally pleasant option -- and traditional part of Italian, Greek, etc cuisines... Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California).…

> Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California). There's a particular kind of processed olive sold in the US as "black olives" which I think this is referring to. If you haven't had one, imagine... imagine that you need to eat an olive, but you hate olives and everything about them, so you invent something that's the shape of an o…

Imagine eating a small hollow black ball of wax. Okay, maybe slightly salty wax.

These black olives are one of the ingredients in a Taco Bell food-style preparation. That should tell you everything you need to know.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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> Thank goodness we figured out how to press olives into oil, because eating them raw is not a pleasant option. We eat olives raw (and cured etc) for several millennia in my side of the woods, and its a totally pleasant option -- and traditional part of Italian, Greek, etc cuisines... Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California).…

> Black olives are totally not a "California invention" either, and they're totally fine (except perhaps just those sold in California). There's a particular kind of processed olive sold in the US as "black olives" which I think this is referring to. If you haven't had one, imagine... imagine that you need to eat an olive, but you hate olives and everything about them, so you invent something that's the shape of an o…

> so you invent something that's the shape of an olive but not.

That makes it sound like those olives aren't actual olive fruit, but manufactured in some manner - which isn't true. They are highly processed, and their black coloring is created as a part of that process - but they are still actual olives.

Re: The Bitter Truth About Olives (2016)

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I predict that olive oil will soon go through the transition that orange juice did. When I was a kid, people viewed orange juice as healthy. Now we see it as unhealthy -- just the sugar. Maybe some vitamin C, but not many people get scurvy. Whatever health benefits it has are overwhelmed by the otherwise empty calories. People want to believe more olive oil will make their diet into a healthy Mediterranean one, but i…

Maybe some Vitamin C?! Orange juice is 71% vitamin C! And there is NO added sugar except maybe in the cartons you must be buying at your grocery store. Olive oil is basically "just fat"?! You make me think that you think the fat in olive oil is no different than the fat in pork or beef. With those thoughts in mind, most of what you eat is just a little of this and just a little of that and "basically just fat" but it…

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