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#422

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Hmm, how is it actually regulated? So, e.g. if I am going to my friends and carrying a bottle of wine altogether with pocket knife bundled with a corkscrew to be sure I will be able to open it, then I am in a grey zone or even illegal?

As long as it's a small, non-locking pocket knife, you're fine. If it's larger, you're fine as long as you have a good reason (eg. needed for work).

That's dangerous advice in many areas of the United States. In NYC if a police officer finds any kind of folding knife, regardless of how harmless, if he wants to arrest you he probably can under NYPD's absurd perversion of the law by considering it possession of a drop knife. If the officer can open the knife by holding it and flicking it open via inertia then he can arrest the victim for possession of a drop knife. They usually don't hold the handle to try and flick it open either, they'll hold it from the tip of the blade as that makes it very easy to just arrest anyone with a pocket knife.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15372404

The first man mentioned in that article was convicted and sentenced to 6 years in prison on the sole charge of possession of this knife.

https://www.amazon.com/Sheffield-12113-One-Hand-Opening-Lock...

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#423

The problem here is that "hacking techniques" to a black hat are also, equal-and-oppositely, legitimate security research and prevention -- to a white hat / security researcher / ethical hacker... In other words, they're aspects of the same thing... The idea that you're going to ban something because one aspect of it has a negative social purpose is philosophically unsound... We don't ban videos on electricity or ele…

> We don't ban videos on electricity or electrical engineering because people can be electrocuted... We don't ban videos on chainsaws because they could be used to cut a person in half... We don't ban videos on cars because they could be used to run people over...

Don’t give to YouTube too many ideas.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#424

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"we"? In the UK you are not allowed to carry a knife with you, unless you just bought one and are bringing to home or are a certified chief who needs one for work, or are going camping.

That's not actually true, the law states, "Without a reasonable excuse", so any reasonable excuse is fine. The idea you'd need to be "certified" to carry a knife is fiction to drive an agenda.

Ok, by "certified" I just meant that if you say you are a chef, you better be employed as a chef and be able to prove it. I don't mean that you need to produce a diploma from a culinary school. If you get stopped with a knife on the London metro saying you're off to cook some food at someone's place(and you need your own knife for some reason) that's probably not going to be accepted without some brief investigation.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#425

The problem here is that "hacking techniques" to a black hat are also, equal-and-oppositely, legitimate security research and prevention -- to a white hat / security researcher / ethical hacker... In other words, they're aspects of the same thing... The idea that you're going to ban something because one aspect of it has a negative social purpose is philosophically unsound... We don't ban videos on electricity or ele…

> The idea that you're going to ban something because one aspect of it has a negative social purpose is philosophically unsound Uh, guns?

Banning guns is philosophically unsound, for the exact reasons this guy just listed. Look at Britian where they are now having unprecedented amounts of stabbings and are actually confiscating things like pliers and forks.

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#426

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They have to say it because otherwise people don't subscribe. I know some youtubers who never did it hut had to resort to saying it because their subscriber numbers where stagnating otherwise.

But you know... people CAN just be ok with their subscriber numbers stagnating a bit. Whoring for likes/subscribes is desperate and it cheapens the hell out of your art. It may give you more likes/subscribes but there are other great things that come from artistic creation than the pitifully minimal effort required by the clicking of a button.

As I understand, it's not about the likes/subscribes, really, but that at subscriber count directly translated to more favorable monetization terms for the content creator. That is, they're basically internet buskers.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#427

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> The idea that you're going to ban something because one aspect of it has a negative social purpose is philosophically unsound Uh, guns?

Banning guns is philosophically unsound, for the exact reasons this guy just listed. Look at Britian where they are now having unprecedented amounts of stabbings and are actually confiscating things like pliers and forks.

I'm uncertain about this idea that increase in knife crime means gun control is pointless. I'd much rather get stabbed than shot given the differential in mortality. Even if all gun crimes were replaced with knife crimes the per capita homicide will be lower.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#429

The problem here is that "hacking techniques" to a black hat are also, equal-and-oppositely, legitimate security research and prevention -- to a white hat / security researcher / ethical hacker... In other words, they're aspects of the same thing... The idea that you're going to ban something because one aspect of it has a negative social purpose is philosophically unsound... We don't ban videos on electricity or ele…

I think the real problem is the obsession with a centralized video silo, when internet video hasn't been "hard" for nigh on a decade. Chuck a video on a host (hell, Cloudfront is just an SFTP transfer away), and drop an HTML video tag onto a web page and you're done.

Everyone who wants to run some sort of "channel" can trivially use cheap hosting and open syndication tools.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

#430
They (and all other creators who produce anything that YT might at some point deem even remotely controversial) should just move to BitChute. It kinda looks ugly, but it basically provides the same functionality, without YTs overbearing politics and hostility towards the 1st amendment.
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