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Re: Science of Science

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Post by camelNotation »

srfilipek wrote: post #3
slim wrote: post #2

this is not science of science. at most you could call it "engineering of science". science of science is epistemology

> science of science is epistemology That would be the Philosophy of Science. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science

Epistemology is the study of knowledge. If science isn't a form of knowledge, what is?

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Post by dfeliej »

Some of the research in this area is misleading, I'd even maybe say poorly conducted, and I worry it will be taken too much at face value by policy-makers and administrators.

The conclusion that institutition doesn't matter, for example, seems ridiculous and flies in the face of a lot of IO research. People move for reasons, for example; the question isn't whether productivity changes after a move on average, it's what would have happened to an individual researcher if they had stayed in a given situation relative to what would have happened after a move to another situation. There's a lot of cliques, the moves aren't random, etc.

It's a bit like concluding that you can determine the importance of a paper solely by looking at the impact factor of a journal.

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Post by stillbourne »

srfilipek wrote: post #3
slim wrote: post #2

this is not science of science. at most you could call it "engineering of science". science of science is epistemology

> science of science is epistemology That would be the Philosophy of Science. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science

You are not wrong but he's not either. The science of science, or metascience, is a field of epistemology, is a philosophy of science. They are all part of the same thing.

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Post by nabla9 »

slim wrote: post #2

this is not science of science. at most you could call it "engineering of science". science of science is epistemology

Science of science is metascience aka meta-research. Applying scientific method to science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metascience

http://metrics.stanford.edu/

Epistemology is philosophy of knowledge, justification, and the rationality of belief. Epistemologists don't use methods that would make it science.

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Post by aldoushuxley001 »

nabla9 wrote: post #7
slim wrote: post #2

this is not science of science. at most you could call it "engineering of science". science of science is epistemology

Science of science is metascience aka meta-research. Applying scientific method to science. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metascience http://metrics.stanford.edu/ Epistemology is philosophy of knowledge, justification, and the rationality of belief. Epistemologists don't use methods that would make it science.

Is the scientific method really being applied here though? Certainly doesn't look like it.
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