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Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by flaque »

reaperducer wrote: post #3

I'm not in the market for this kind of app, but thank you for making it a straight $9.99 purchase, instead of a $4.99/month SaaS (rental) scheme. Or some bogus in-app purchase that gets negated somewhere along the way when the app auto-updates and the previous in-app purchase is no longer available. I can't tell if it syncs data with my other Apple devices, but if it does, it would be great if it had the option of do…

I would much rather pay for a product over time.

When you pay upfront, the dev is not incentivized to try and keep you. So the product gets worse and worse until it dies.

If you pay overtime, the whole game is “how can we make this person love the shit out of this thing for as long as possible.”

Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

flaque wrote: post #91
reaperducer wrote: post #3

I'm not in the market for this kind of app, but thank you for making it a straight $9.99 purchase, instead of a $4.99/month SaaS (rental) scheme. Or some bogus in-app purchase that gets negated somewhere along the way when the app auto-updates and the previous in-app purchase is no longer available. I can't tell if it syncs data with my other Apple devices, but if it does, it would be great if it had the option of do…

I would much rather pay for a product over time. When you pay upfront, the dev is not incentivized to try and keep you. So the product gets worse and worse until it dies. If you pay overtime, the whole game is “how can we make this person love the shit out of this thing for as long as possible.”

I’ll pay for version 1. If version 2 is good I’ll pay for that. If not I own version 1 and will keep using it.

Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by emeraldx »

nihonde wrote: post #88
jpulgarin wrote: post #20

Hey HN! My name is Julian, and I made Effortless with aracena to solve a problem we were both having: how to focus on exactly one thing at a time. Effortless displays my current task, and a countdown timer in the menu bar, and although it sounds silly, it means that I have a constant visual reminder of what I should be working on. Effortless was also a great excuse to learn Swift and native Mac app development. I'm h…

There’s a word missing in the text of one of the screenshots in the App Store. (I’m in the Japan App Store, if that matters.) “...are you done your task?” Also, notifications is spelled incorrectly. Those kinds of mistakes indicate a lack of attention to detail.

Can confirm. I too noticed these through the Japan App Store.

Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by dang »

sovande wrote: post #57
duiker101 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean... aren't all Show HN sort of adverts? How is this different?

It links directly to the Mac App Store which open MAS on my Mac. It's kind of rude. Their web-page does not contain any text describing the product, there is a simple video which could be linked instead. The product is at least 1 year old, judging from comments in the App Store. Usually a Show HN thing is a bit fresher. I agree with OP, this feels less like a Show HN and more like "oh by the way, we should post a Sho…

The general rule for Show HNs is that there has to be a way to try out the product or project. That means different things in different contexts, since e.g. hardware can't easily be "tried out", so we tend to adapt that rule some. But I think you're right that there should be more information with a software Show HN, even though it isn't a web app.

Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by aracena »

dang wrote: post #94
sovande wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It links directly to the Mac App Store which open MAS on my Mac. It's kind of rude. Their web-page does not contain any text describing the product, there is a simple video which could be linked instead. The product is at least 1 year old, judging from comments in the App Store. Usually a Show HN thing is a bit fresher. I agree with OP, this feels less like a Show HN and more like "oh by the way, we should post a Sho…

The general rule for Show HNs is that there has to be a way to try out the product or project. That means different things in different contexts, since e.g. hardware can't easily be "tried out", so we tend to adapt that rule some. But I think you're right that there should be more information with a software Show HN, even though it isn't a web app.

thank you for the information I didn't know that, We offered to many people who asked to try the app to write us to h@effortless.app and we will give it to them. Hopefully next time we will do a better show HN thank you

Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by dang »

aracena wrote: post #95
dang wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The general rule for Show HNs is that there has to be a way to try out the product or project. That means different things in different contexts, since e.g. hardware can't easily be "tried out", so we tend to adapt that rule some. But I think you're right that there should be more information with a software Show HN, even though it isn't a web app.

thank you for the information I didn't know that, We offered to many people who asked to try the app to write us to h@effortless.app and we will give it to them. Hopefully next time we will do a better show HN thank you

Well, that's probably enough if you're willing to follow through on such requests quickly. I'll restore the title.

Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by izacus »

oiasdjfoiasd wrote: post #64
reaperducer wrote: post #3

I'm not in the market for this kind of app, but thank you for making it a straight $9.99 purchase, instead of a $4.99/month SaaS (rental) scheme. Or some bogus in-app purchase that gets negated somewhere along the way when the app auto-updates and the previous in-app purchase is no longer available. I can't tell if it syncs data with my other Apple devices, but if it does, it would be great if it had the option of do…

It depends. If it's a piece of software that never updates, a one time purchase makes sense. But otherwise, why should you get access to all future updates and ongoing work? I think Sketch has a good system - you pay once and you only have access to that version forever (bugs and all). In order to update/get new features, you need to pay again or have an ongoing subscription.

The software purchase model has worked for years and had made many companies very very rich.

Hint: you can charge for upgrades without forcing them down your users throats.

Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by austhrow743 »

oiasdjfoiasd wrote: post #64
reaperducer wrote: post #3

I'm not in the market for this kind of app, but thank you for making it a straight $9.99 purchase, instead of a $4.99/month SaaS (rental) scheme. Or some bogus in-app purchase that gets negated somewhere along the way when the app auto-updates and the previous in-app purchase is no longer available. I can't tell if it syncs data with my other Apple devices, but if it does, it would be great if it had the option of do…

It depends. If it's a piece of software that never updates, a one time purchase makes sense. But otherwise, why should you get access to all future updates and ongoing work? I think Sketch has a good system - you pay once and you only have access to that version forever (bugs and all). In order to update/get new features, you need to pay again or have an ongoing subscription.

>But otherwise, why should you get access to all future updates and ongoing work?

Because a norm has been established in software where you can charge for what in physical goods would be considered a defective piece of shit that should be recalled asap. This is beneficial to software developers and is predicated upon the concept of free updates.

Re: Show HN: A minimalist Mac app that helps track, allocate, and plan your time

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Post by Crinus »

flaque wrote: post #91
reaperducer wrote: post #3

I'm not in the market for this kind of app, but thank you for making it a straight $9.99 purchase, instead of a $4.99/month SaaS (rental) scheme. Or some bogus in-app purchase that gets negated somewhere along the way when the app auto-updates and the previous in-app purchase is no longer available. I can't tell if it syncs data with my other Apple devices, but if it does, it would be great if it had the option of do…

I would much rather pay for a product over time. When you pay upfront, the dev is not incentivized to try and keep you. So the product gets worse and worse until it dies. If you pay overtime, the whole game is “how can we make this person love the shit out of this thing for as long as possible.”

> how can we make this person love the shit out of this thing for as long as possible

"I know! Let's add every feature and bullet point under the sun!"

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