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Mass Surveillance in the United States

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Re: Mass Surveillance in the United States

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

quaquaqua1 wrote: post #10

"a communication can be retained by CIA for longer than 5 years if it is enciphered" nice, so basically all communications through popular chat apps these days. no wonder they are asking for "backdoors" :) what happens when quantum computing decrypts these all? if it's 15 years from now, do they just throw us all in prison retroactively for something we said 15 years ago?

>what happens when quantum computing decrypts these all? if it's 15 years from now, do they just throw us all in prison retroactively for something we said 15 years ago?

They're only gonna decrypt your messages if they want to throw you in prison. Welcome to arbitrary enforcement.

Re: Mass Surveillance in the United States

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

OrgNet wrote: post #7
sbhn wrote: post #3

Its for your security for gods sake, stop complaining. If it saves just one life, n all that

The police kills more people in the USA then all terrorists combined (about 1000/year).

More people die from choking on food every year in the USA than die from terrorism AND police.

Re: Mass Surveillance in the United States

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Post by educationdata »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #12
OrgNet wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police kills more people in the USA then all terrorists combined (about 1000/year).

More people die from choking on food every year in the USA than die from terrorism AND police.

This is a silly comparison. Terrorist can kill 30 people in one attack or even break down a whole building with a bomb. When did 30 people choke by one piece of food?

And we don't have another 911 may because of mass surveillance. Shall we try removing the surveillance to see whether terrorist attack increases?

Re: Mass Surveillance in the United States

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Post by quaquaqua1 »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #11
quaquaqua1 wrote: post #10

"a communication can be retained by CIA for longer than 5 years if it is enciphered" nice, so basically all communications through popular chat apps these days. no wonder they are asking for "backdoors" :) what happens when quantum computing decrypts these all? if it's 15 years from now, do they just throw us all in prison retroactively for something we said 15 years ago?

>what happens when quantum computing decrypts these all? if it's 15 years from now, do they just throw us all in prison retroactively for something we said 15 years ago? They're only gonna decrypt your messages if they want to throw you in prison. Welcome to arbitrary enforcement.

I have a sneaking suspicion you are right.

They will decrypt all communications, maybe, but go after the average citizen and not the senator or large donor.

Re: Mass Surveillance in the United States

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Post by khuey »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #12
OrgNet wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police kills more people in the USA then all terrorists combined (about 1000/year).

More people die from choking on food every year in the USA than die from terrorism AND police.

Most people who die of choking are elderly and close to death anyways.

Re: Mass Surveillance in the United States

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Post by ASalazarMX »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #12
OrgNet wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police kills more people in the USA then all terrorists combined (about 1000/year).

More people die from choking on food every year in the USA than die from terrorism AND police.

Stop giving ideas to the American war barons! One of these mornings we'll awake to "Operation Freedom Choke: Liberty in your throat".

Re: Mass Surveillance in the United States

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

educationdata wrote: post #13
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More people die from choking on food every year in the USA than die from terrorism AND police.

This is a silly comparison. Terrorist can kill 30 people in one attack or even break down a whole building with a bomb. When did 30 people choke by one piece of food? And we don't have another 911 may because of mass surveillance. Shall we try removing the surveillance to see whether terrorist attack increases?

So it's worth it to you to spend 100's of billions to stop 30 hypothetical deaths? Ok. You're allowed to have that opinion. I'll vote against it every chance I get.
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