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Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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post #47

The complexity and cost of butterfly keyboards comparatively to traditional keyboards, reliables and cheaps just reminds me a bit an article I read on the development of Electromagnetic Catapults in US Navy (hard to build, astronomical costs).

Are you referring to railguns?

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taptic Engine is a very good click emulator. The touchpad of newer MacBooks and tactile feedbacks of newer iPhones are just amazing. On the other side, nothing can emulate a good (even membrane) keyboard, because typing's most important sensory feedback is not touch or sound, but finger travel. I'm a programmer and use a variety of keyboards. I have an 2014 MacBook Pro, a lowish end membrane keyboard at office and a…

It's pretty hard to go back to membrane or scissor switches when one has gotten used to a mechanical keyboard. When I bough the small Magic Keyboard 2 for use with my midi controller(I needed a bluetooth keyboard), it took me weeks to adjust. It felt like banging on a flat table for a while.

The Anne Pro 2 is mechanical and has bluetooth, maybe an alternative for you?

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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I desperately hope this is true. I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. The keyboard has failed twice, and the Touch Bar is inferior to the old hardware keys in every way. I hate it. The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying and I couldn't wait any more. Assuming this report is true, my only remaining worry is that they w…

I'm on the exact same boat (Air then 1st touch bar Mac). I've resigned to using it docked only both at work and home.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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post #26

Don't understand the problem. I like new keyboard more than the previous one, I'm indifferent to touchbar and mapping escape to capslock was the best thing ever. The only thing I hate is keys getting stuck, but it actually stopped happening(2017 model). I wouldn't like to come back to old keyboard now.

The problem is that the keyboard breaks very easily, at random.

Yeah that’s crucial. I’m still using my 2012 MBP. I clean it once or twice a year, more for aesthetics. It’s great not having to worry about where and how I use it (outside of extreme environments) every time I use it.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GP means real USB ports not the horror that is USB-C

What's wrong with usb c ?

Most stuff people use USB for still have the good old USB-A adapters: mice, keyboards, USB sticks/other drives, card readers, LTE dongles.

The things that actually need the massive speed benefits from USB-C (10G network adapters and PCIe enclosures) can have USB-C, fine with me, but please don't force users to buy and especially lose adapters just to be able to use their existing stuff. And no need to make shit ever more expensive and complex, a mouse won't ever need anything from USB-C.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#137
Avid user of Apple gear for many years and so happy they are throwing out that garbage. Ive never had the displeasure of actually using the butterfly keyboard on my daily driver (holding out with mid-2015 MBP 15) and dont plan on upgrading to a new Apple laptop if I have to deal with the touchbar/keyboard non—sense.

You’d think with the thousands of skus they ship today they could figure out most people would be happy with a refreshed 15 with 2 USB-A and 2 USB-C ports (I can live w/o Magsafe)

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#138

I desperately hope this is true. I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. The keyboard has failed twice, and the Touch Bar is inferior to the old hardware keys in every way. I hate it. The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying and I couldn't wait any more. Assuming this report is true, my only remaining worry is that they w…

I've bought the non Touch Bar model after using 2 months the TB one. I have never regret this decision.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#139

I personally love the Touch Bar and I really like the quiet, soft, short-travel keys on the 2015+ MacBooks. Other than a "rigid" cursor key on the first-generation 12" MacBook, I haven't experienced any unresponsive keys, definitely not on the Pros, yet (though that may be because I always use a protector or "keyboard condom" to prevent finger stains and smudges.) I do not miss MagSafe or the headphone jack either. I…

I’ve held off buying a new mbp until they fix the keyboard/Touch Bar. I know of plenty of others like me.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#140
post #85

I sardonically worry that they will offer a touch screen keyboard instead.

The Lenovo Yoga Book is a hinged tablet. Bottom half is a glass surface with both capacitive touch and Wacom digitiser. It comes with a Wacom pen, which has a swappable ballpoint pen nib so you can draw on paper and have it digitised. There's a backlit silkscreen-type stencil that shines through a (permanent) keyboard layout. And touchpad. So, it's touch-screen typing on a fixed keyboard layout. And you can swap betw…

The bit about the swappable pen tip picked my interest, cool feature! As an avid believer that pen input is the most flexible way to express your thought process, I find it a bit of a lost art though, people born in the new millennium just wont spend the time to learn to write cursive. I went through most of the Note generation from Samsung and the SPen is getting really close to the look and feel of writing on paper. There's a Google hand writing keyboard for Android that is really good, in fact I am writing this using it. Still, it looks like it will continue to be a niche functionality at best.
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