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Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by sokoloff »

martincollignon wrote: post #19
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same copy paste on every climate change post is starting to feel like tedious spam at this point. I see from your history it's the only thing you have ever posted on HN.

Hey NeedMoreTea, you're right - so far I haven't posted so much else. Do you have any idea on how to raise awareness of community projects that you would feel are more respectful? 50+ people have joined the projects over the last week, attributing it to threads on HN, so it seems that for some users it is providing some value.

Spamming is often an effective tactic. That's why people continue to do it. Arguing that it's OK because it has the effect you seek is hollow at best.

Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by StreamBright »

Retric wrote: post #34
StreamBright wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes so in the last ~100 years it was the highest. How about 1000 years or 100000? Why is only the last 100 years relevant in the context of climate?

We use 100 years as a benchmark for weather events like floods. As to why I guess it’s a good benchmark for living memory.

So I guess there is no scientific reason, just living memory. For me such articles just lack the scientific merit and the only purpose is trying to cause mass hysteria. Earlier it was about how we all going the freeze to death, nowadays it is how we are all going to die because of global warming. In fact Earth went through several warm and cool periods, even if you look back just few hundred years. I am all for reducing CO2 and I am pretty successfully reduced unnecessary CO2 production in my work by using more efficient solutions and not wasting energy because this is what is under my control to help mother Earth. Writing click baity articles without context and scientific merit is not going to help anybody.

Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by martincollignon »

cr1895 wrote: post #36
martincollignon wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm (obviously) very involved in climate change and how tech (very represented in the HN community) can play a role in fixing it: many are asking themselves the question on how they can do something about it. I want to help these people find a spot where they can find like-minded people interested on working on it - and I believe climate change posts on HN are a good match between people concerned about the climate,…

Noble as your motives are, you're still spamming and that's not the intention of this forum. There are "Show HN:" posts...perhaps that's a better option for you.

Thanks for the feedback - I could try Show HN: in the future. Will reduce the posting frequency from now on.

Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by ChrisRR »

martincollignon wrote: post #19
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same copy paste on every climate change post is starting to feel like tedious spam at this point. I see from your history it's the only thing you have ever posted on HN.

Hey NeedMoreTea, you're right - so far I haven't posted so much else. Do you have any idea on how to raise awareness of community projects that you would feel are more respectful? 50+ people have joined the projects over the last week, attributing it to threads on HN, so it seems that for some users it is providing some value.

I think generally joining the discussion is a good thing to do. Especially if you're passionate about these issues that probably means you have more to add than just copy-pasting the same links.

Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by ryder9 »

StreamBright wrote: post #42
Retric wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We use 100 years as a benchmark for weather events like floods. As to why I guess it’s a good benchmark for living memory.

So I guess there is no scientific reason, just living memory. For me such articles just lack the scientific merit and the only purpose is trying to cause mass hysteria. Earlier it was about how we all going the freeze to death, nowadays it is how we are all going to die because of global warming. In fact Earth went through several warm and cool periods, even if you look back just few hundred years. I am all for reduc…

so now the narrative has shifted from denial to "hysteria" & "clickbait" eh?

Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by aoeaoeaoe »

adrianN wrote: post #15
martincollignon wrote: post #6

Want to make a difference on climate change as a technologist? Feel free to join these communities actively looking for support and with ongoing projects (that are alive): - https://climateaction.tech/ - https://techimpactmakers.com/ - https://www.tmrow.com

There is also https://citizensclimatelobby.org/ which doesn't require any particular skills. Maybe you want to include that in your copypasta for the next thread.

Confirming it doesn't require any particular skills to propagate an ideology.

Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by alecmg »

ForHackernews wrote: post #32
StreamBright wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes so in the last ~100 years it was the highest. How about 1000 years or 100000? Why is only the last 100 years relevant in the context of climate?

It's never changed this suddenly and dramatically before: https://xkcd.com/1732/

Again arbitrary cutoff at 20000BC.

Lets pick the peak of last ice age and be amazed because since then we are only getting warmer.

Lets also add some exponent predictions in the end, because it worked out so well for Lisa Simpson teeth.

I like xkcd, but this is not their best work.

Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by ForHackernews »

alecmg wrote: post #48
ForHackernews wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's never changed this suddenly and dramatically before: https://xkcd.com/1732/

Again arbitrary cutoff at 20000BC. Lets pick the peak of last ice age and be amazed because since then we are only getting warmer. Lets also add some exponent predictions in the end, because it worked out so well for Lisa Simpson teeth. I like xkcd, but this is not their best work.

Sure, whatever. Honestly, I'm tired of arguing with denialists. Really, I do hope that it turns out you're correct and know better than almost every climate scientist on earth.

At this point irrational hope is about the only hope left, so sure. Let's say you're right. Everything is fine. Natural cycles. Whatever.

Re: Anchorage Has Never Reached 90° F. That Could Change This Week

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Post by cyberferret »

hellofunk wrote: post #38
cyberferret wrote: post #25

My former co-founder of my SaaS was based in remote Alaska (I am in tropical Australia), and I remember one day a while back late in the year, it was +35degC here and she said it was -35degC over there. I couldn't believe we were equidistant on either end of the 0 datum, with a massive 70 degree C difference in temperature variation. Weirdly, it is now our dry season, with temperatures around 21degC and I just Google…

But isn't that partly due to it being summer in Alaska right now, and it is winter in Australia? You said "late last year" was your previous comparison, which implies it was approaching summer in Australia?

We are so close to the equator here that we don't really have the equivalent of 4 seasons. Rather just a 'wet' and 'dry' season. Probably about a 15 degree C variation in temperature throughout the year.

My point was that I don't believe Alaska ever got warmer than we ever do here, but it has happened. My first story about the 70 degree variation in temperature is more the norm.

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