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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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It's not as good as those on Thinkpads.

Which thinkpads? From 2003? From 2010? From today?

I got an X1 Extreme. Keyboard is amazing. Didn’t know these keyboards were so much better than any MAC I owned until January this year.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#55

That's good news—for the people who are buying laptops next year. Hopefully the return to scissor switches is combined with some improvements to the touch bar. My suggestion to Apple would be: put a small physical ESC key on the far left of the touch bar on 13 inch models, and include both physical F-keys AND a touch bar on the larger models. Bonus points: allow people to choose classic F-keys on the 13 inch models a…

I would love to see Apple make the touch bar an option. If Apple sold two identical MacBooks models, except for the touch bar, my guess would be that they would sell significantly more units without the touch bar.

Is anyone seriously benefiting from the touch bar or even using it for anything other than as a gimmick?

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#56
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Finally! It took four years to admit there is something wrong. And one more year to change upcoming laptops. - It‘s unbelievable how this crap could be released. Coming from a ThinkPad to a MBP in 2015 I was even disappointed by the keyboard of the MBP 2015. Then switching to a MBP 2018 I was shocked how much worse things could get (for the sake of thinness?)

> Finally! It took four years to admit there is something wrong. And one more year to change upcoming laptops I think they admitted something was wrong as soon as they created the replacement program, it's just they have been completely unwilling to alter their planned product schedule to fix it early. When they create a laptop design they expect to be able to ship the same basic chassis design for 3-4 years and in t…

>> Just don't think they have much respect for their Mac customers anymore and know they'll stick around.

Jusdging from the irrational enthusiasm in most of this thread, it looks like you are right.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#57
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What’s wrong with the 2015? That’s the last good version of the keyboard IMO.

If you have a mint 2015 mac pro 15" with box and battery -- I predict it will be going up in value.

There's a good chance you can have the battery replaced as part of the ongoing recall.

https://support.apple.com/15-inch-macbook-pro-battery-recall

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#58
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Don't understand the problem. I like new keyboard more than the previous one, I'm indifferent to touchbar and mapping escape to capslock was the best thing ever. The only thing I hate is keys getting stuck, but it actually stopped happening(2017 model). I wouldn't like to come back to old keyboard now.

The problem is that the keyboard breaks very easily, at random.

If you're always in a clean environment, the keyboard is ok.

I've used 3 consecutive mac laptops on the same balcony, open air. The one from 2010 and the one from 2014 are just fine thank you. The one from 2018 already has keyboard problems and it hasn't even been a year since i bought it.

So yes, the keyboard is complete and utter shit.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

#59
I personally love the Touch Bar and I really like the quiet, soft, short-travel keys on the 2015+ MacBooks. Other than a "rigid" cursor key on the first-generation 12" MacBook, I haven't experienced any unresponsive keys, definitely not on the Pros, yet (though that may be because I always use a protector or "keyboard condom" to prevent finger stains and smudges.)

I do not miss MagSafe or the headphone jack either. I prefer thinness and lightness. I'm one of the people who have been satisfied with Macs for a long time and haven't considered switching to anything else, and despite what the loud minority may make it seem like, I'm clearly not alone:

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/09/new-macbook-pro-has-outs...

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which thinkpads? From 2003? From 2010? From today?

I got an X1 Extreme. Keyboard is amazing. Didn’t know these keyboards were so much better than any MAC I owned until January this year.

Dat touchpad though...
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