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Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

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Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#41
I think I've never seen worst GDPR compliance : big "I Consent" button with no negative counterpart, except a link to the cookie policy where the "opt out" section invites you to disable cookies in your browser and manually edit local storage. Is that a joke ?

Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#42
It’s funny how what purely is an accessibility feature done to help “differently advantaged folks” (how these journalists would say) is being turned against them by the media.

Reminds me how they are vilifying open APIs and explaining them as a way Facebook “gives away your data”.

Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is an incredibly charitable interpretation of the word "reveal" in the headline. Every piece of information can be "revealed" to someone by that definition, it's happening all the time, and it wouldn't be a newsworthy event.

"Reveal" means to show something that was previously hidden from view - what has happened here is pretty much the textbook definition of the word.

The implication is that a secret is being revealed, possibly a dark secret to worry about. But FB and others put content in alt tags for people to read when they can’t see the images (for example die to blindness), it is much less dramatic to “reveal” something that was intentionally put there for people to read.

Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#45

Lots of comments about how this isn’t new, or how it’s related to accessibility. The article mentions all this. That’s not what the story is. It’s not a very deep story, but I don’t think it’s quite so trivial as is being suggested. The story is about this info being exposed to users just browsing the site, and the reaction that elicits. Someone seeing the tags inline in their feed by a glitch will tend to have a ver…

Yeah no. It's not like people have not seen tag suggestions before, or don't realize the relevance of recommendations etc etc. Even the most tech-illiterate facebook users i know all know that.

Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#46
IMHO by now if you're still on Facebook you've made a conscious decision to let a business with an awful track-record of respecting its users' privacy basically have carte blanche over whatever you give to them.

I'm sure there are a few folks out there who don't realize this, but most people I talk to about this say they a) hate it but b) don't want to leave the platform because it lets them keep in touch with people. To them, it's worth it. Not to me.

Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#47
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This stuff is in the HTML, you can see it with web inspector, or I think just by hovering your mouse over the image because that looks like it's in the title attribute for the image. This isn't it like something new was exposed inadvertently. I'm surprised The Verge wrote an article about this.

It’s in the alt attribute, like it should.

Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For accessibility?

I'd be surprised if they even care about that, but who knows, it's a possibility

You'd be surprised if the largest content delivery platform in the world cares about being accessible to the broadest range of users?

https://code.fb.com/ios/under-the-hood-building-accessibilit...

Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#49

Lots of comments about how this isn’t new, or how it’s related to accessibility. The article mentions all this. That’s not what the story is. It’s not a very deep story, but I don’t think it’s quite so trivial as is being suggested. The story is about this info being exposed to users just browsing the site, and the reaction that elicits. Someone seeing the tags inline in their feed by a glitch will tend to have a ver…

This is just the alt-text associated with the image and is there for accessibility purposes. That text is always part of the page even without the "glitch". This to me is a good use of AI as it provides a richer experience for those who can't otherwise view the images.

I suppose it might make some people aware, who weren't otherwise, that their images are being processed for content.

Much more interesting and readily available though are the "interests" Facebook assigns to you, which everyone can access: Settings | Ads | Your Interests. These hint at much deeper analysis that is being done with data, and data from other sources beyond just analyzing pictures for content.

This is the golden goose from Facebook's perspective. Their whole business is based around having a giant ontology of subjects and slotting you into this giant graph, then selling access into that ontology.

That has been the basis of targeted advertising since well-before the advent of the internet, but now the ontology is much, much richer and the people are providing the data used for the AI-driven slotting all on their own.

Re: Facebook’s image outage reveals how the company’s AI tags your photos

#50
What I think is more interesting about this outage is that Instagram and WhatsApp were affected. This means your images are stored on the same servers, and possibly subject to the same AI scanning. I wonder if WhatsApp images are E2E encrypted...
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