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Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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Exactly... Could it not just have been named CNContactLabelRelation表姐 ?

Is Chinese the only language with this relationship? Also, identifiers in Apple frameworks are always ASCII.

I'm not sure it's the only culture having this specific relationship, but it's perhaps better to make sense to some than to none?

A Chinese person, an Apple engineer and a HN reader walk into a bikeshed...

Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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Is Chinese the only language with this relationship? Also, identifiers in Apple frameworks are always ASCII.

They could have used Pinyin. Even people who don’t speak Chinese and have to look it up would have an easier time understanding it than trying to parse this identifier.

When I put this in Google Translate, it auto-detects Japanese and gives me "outer cover." When I specify Chinese, it just says "cousin." So it's not trivial to look up.

Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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They could have used Pinyin. Even people who don’t speak Chinese and have to look it up would have an easier time understanding it than trying to parse this identifier.

When I put this in Google Translate, it auto-detects Japanese and gives me "outer cover." When I specify Chinese, it just says "cousin." So it's not trivial to look up.

Presumably you would google "CNBiaoJie" and find Apple documentation explaining the concept.

(As an aside, Google Translate is a terrible way to look up the definitions of specific words. It is not a Chinese-English dictionary and doesn't try to be. Wiktionary would be a much better free option.)

Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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“There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things.” [1] [1] https://martinfowler.com/bliki/TwoHardThings.html

And off by one errors

"LET by-ones = by-gones WITH "

Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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I'm assuming those Mandarin characters comprise the word for that relationship? I was wondering why this existed and I thought maybe they were adding the Hindi words for specific relatives (there's many, I assume the same is true for Mandarin).

In Chinese culture, your male line ancestry matter more. Your mother's family is considered auxiliary ('外家'), thus only your father's brother's children are considered in the same family, and these cousins are labeled “堂”, all the other cousins are labeled "表”, and "姐" means older sister.

Is this why it is a mother's sibling of any gender, but only a father's sister?

Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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They could have used Pinyin. Even people who don’t speak Chinese and have to look it up would have an easier time understanding it than trying to parse this identifier.

When I put this in Google Translate, it auto-detects Japanese and gives me "outer cover." When I specify Chinese, it just says "cousin." So it's not trivial to look up.

Google translate and Bing translate are extremely unreliable for ideographic languages.

Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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I guess I'm confused as to the specificity of this. Why are a paternal uncle's daughters not included? Why only elder?

Also curious as to why this is important enough to have a specific type of contact for?

Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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Well, there's CNLabelContactRelationYoungerCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter, which is two letters longer than CNLabelContactRelationElderCousinMothersSiblingsDaughterOrFathersSistersDaughter. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/contacts/cnlabelco... This is my favorite topic.

Well the article draws enough attention to the cause

Re: CNLabelContactRelation​YoungerCousin​MothersSiblingsDaughter​OrFathersSistersDaughter

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表姐 means older female cousin of a different surname. If surnames are always passed down via the father that implies an elder cousin who is either your mother’s sibling’s daughter or your father’s sister’s daughter.

So what happens if, by chance, a woman in your family marries someone of the same surname? Does the 表姐 label then not apply where it otherwise would?

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