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Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by pakitan » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:26 AM UTC

xwdv wrote: post #10

Has everyone forgotten that you can easily just host your own website and throw up whatever video content you want there? I can’t imagine creating a ton of educational content and then having it all depend on the whims of a single platform. This is not the end of infosec or hacking videos.

As others mentioned, discoverability is an issue, as well as monetization. I doubt the frozen channel makes a lot of money but even if it's 100 bucks per week or month, it still helps. If he hosted the videos on his own site, he'll most likely make zero.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by charliebrownau » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:30 AM UTC

How many times do individuals have to keep getting

Content removed

Free Speech labeled as "hate speech"

Truth censored

Exposing Mainstream system

Exposing corporations

for people to FINALLY be willing to use actual free speech platforms for content

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by tastroder » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:30 AM UTC

celdon25 wrote: post #50

hobs wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its much much much more expensive to host video content than anything else.

This time is different, because hackers are more likely to have the ability to solve this problem (even if it weren't for the fact that YT already solved it once more than a decade ago). YT probably made a big mistake here.

Pretty doubtful about that tbh. Yes, the hacking type can likely solve "host video" for people to watch, maybe even "make it streamable without ruining my resources" but they usually aren't as apt w.r.t. user experience, SEO, and a multitude of other aspects that capture an audience. Shameful as I might find it, independent sites also don't offer nearly the reach a platform like YouTube does these days.

Add to that the fact that we're talking about a niche topic here, it's unlikely to affect youtube in any non-philosophical manner.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by charliebrownau » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:31 AM UTC

Gday Platforms that censor speech List :-

* Facebook

* Twitter

* Google & Youtube

* TUMBLR

* Pateron

* Stripe

* Paypal

* Twitch

* Spotify

* Apple

* Sony

* pin interest

* LinkedIn

* Mailchimp

* Wordpress

* mastodon

* azure

* Mastercard

* Godaddy

* MEDIUM

* Shopify

* Cloudflare

* pusher

* WIKI

* Reddit

* teespring

* Slack

* coinbase

* GOFUNDME

* VISA

* Square

* Bitpay

* ROKU

* Netflix

* Indiegogo

* Disqus

* VIMEO

* Ravelry

Regards, Charliebrowau

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by thevardanian » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:46 AM UTC

Sabinus wrote: post #142

thevardanian wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fact are there any other good gathering places than some obscure subreddits?

Can anyone recommend any good obscure subreddits? I have trouble finding new content.

It depends on what you're interested in. There's virtually one for any topic.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by izacus » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:51 AM UTC

sn41 wrote: post #67

celdon25 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This time is different, because hackers are more likely to have the ability to solve this problem (even if it weren't for the fact that YT already solved it once more than a decade ago). YT probably made a big mistake here.

If I understand correctly, YT is able to solve it because it has huge data centers which can cache the videos at appropriate locations all around the world. Honest query: do you think an individual/small group can replicate this? Perhaps GNU can take this up as an initiative.

You don't need to cache videos at all if you're small enough. If you don't have YT volume, you also don't have to pay as much for bandwidth.

It's also the only way to stay independent from advertiser interests.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by eyeball » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:52 AM UTC

They’re killing off mousetrap Monday too.

“Cruelty to animals”

May they be infested with plague rats.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by brokenmachine » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:53 AM UTC

Avamander wrote: post #117

mrhappyunhappy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree. I found the channel to be useful and educational. For example, I knew people could crack WiFi passwords but never actually understood how until I watched null byte videos. Now I can be more vigilant about protecting my WiFi. I really hate these generalizations about these wannabe hackers being kids playing League. I’m 33 and I would venture a lot of people watching those vids have legitimate interest in exp…

> I’m not happy that today’s society wants to monitor and deter everything. It leaves no room for exploration, growth, mistakes and learning. YouTube isn't even the worst example of this. The digital surveillance in schools really creeps me out the most.

What kind of surveillance goes on in schools nowadays?

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by beecat » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:58 AM UTC

Solution: Publish your infosec tutorials as fetish videos on pornhub.

I bet they have a better monetization model for creators anyways.

Re: YouTube's ban on “hacking techniques” threatens to shut down infosec YouTube

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Post by kdbg » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 5:59 AM UTC

montecarl wrote: post #148

ohazi wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes I wish people had developed an expectation that commercial software should come with the source code, rather than as (only) a binary blob. Licensing terms could be the same, but people would look at you funny and feel cheated if you tried to sell them a binary blob.

The only domain where I have seen this is with commercial scientific software that is designed to be run on supercomputers. This is mostly due to the difficulty of producing high performance binaries that work with the MPI implementation. One interesting implication is that since people can view and modify the source code, patches and modifications to the software are shared. This has always lead me to wonder if a di…

I'm not a lawyer but this reminds me of how game mods are shared for old games. They are shared at patch files to avoid sharing the copyrighted original binary/rom file.

My understanding is that use a patch file as long as your patch doesn't include any copyrighted material it is fair to share.

A patch file does not necessarily have any of the original code, just the location info and the new value.